Posted by elektratig [ 152.163.100.65 ] on December 15, 2005 at 20:44:21:

In Reply to: Something To Be Proud Of posted by manualblock on December 15, 2005 at 10:42:06:

I'll pass over the effectiveness point -- of course it can be.

The media has grossly distorted this issue. It has nothing to do with torture. There is already a federal statute banning torture. The dispute was over McCain's ridiculous definition, which bars "cruel, inhuman, OR DEGRADING treatment or punishment." (emphasis added)

What the hell does THAT mean? At least one Gitmo detainee claimed that he was degraded because he was forced to deal with a woman guard. If we have a high-level AQ detainee in custody, I say, degrade the hell out him.

May I ask you about the "ticking time bomb" (or more likely "ticking WMD") scenario? Is "torture" still off limits?

Replies:

• Re: Wrong Again, MB - manualblock 21:13:12 12/15/05 (12)
  • Ticking Time Bomb - elektratig 07:30:04 12/16/05 (11)
    • Re: Ticking Time Bomb - manualblock 08:49:57 12/16/05 (10)
      • McCain and Miranda - elektratig 13:07:33 12/16/05 (7)
        • Re: McCain and Miranda - manualblock 15:52:59 12/16/05 (6)
          • Re: McCain and Miranda - elektratig 05:57:26 12/17/05 (5)
            • Re: McCain and Miranda - manualblock 07:52:12 12/17/05 (4)
              • Re: McCain and Miranda - elektratig 05:40:15 12/18/05 (3)
                • Re: McCain and Miranda - Damir 09:12:26 12/18/05 (1)
                  • Re: McCain and Miranda - Manualblock 10:38:21 12/18/05 (0)
                • Re: McCain and Miranda - Manualblock 07:38:48 12/18/05 (0)
      • Re: Ticking Time Bomb - Damir 12:21:15 12/16/05 (1)
        • Re: Ticking Time Bomb - manualblock 13:05:25 12/16/05 (0)