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Just being a goof.... [message #30405 is a reply to message #30403] |
Fri, 04 February 2005 20:05 |
colinhester
Messages: 1349 Registered: May 2009 Location: NE Arkansas
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- I like the idea of mercury rectifiers and the 2A3 myself. I was just being silly. - It should have said freeze plugs, not oil plugs. Wayne made reference to it under the FS Audio forum regarding the build. - Yes, both virgin files (not down loaded onto my HD) were sent on to you from my email. They should have been attachments.....Colin
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Re: Juvenile request [message #30407 is a reply to message #30397] |
Sat, 05 February 2005 12:02 |
Damir
Messages: 1005 Registered: May 2009
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SE 2A3 (6B4G, 6A3) power amp would be rel. easy, IMO - with typical OP (Uak=250V, Ugk=-45V, Ia=60mA, Ra=2k5, Pout=3,5W), we need about 32Vrms "input" from the driver for the full power. With our high-output "Guinevere" line stage, we can comfortably use one - tube driver with active load, say again 5687, or ECC99, E182CC, or something from 6SN7 "family", say 6J5GT single triode. PS would be little more complicated, say LCLC for B+ of about 300V, motor-run caps again. For the input tube/driver additional LC (or RC stage). With active (DN2540 again) load, about 300V or little less is enough B+ for the above tubes. I can draw the schematic, even breadbord the prototipe, I`m sure that Doug can give some ideas, especially with Hg-rectifiers (I don`t have the experience with those). All in all, IMO - project easy enough to build, but "good enough" (with good transformers - "Heyboer" again, or...?). PP 2A3 is another option, maybe better - but little more complicated, especially phase splitter/driver - it`s hard to do it "right" simple. Probably larger/separated B+ for the driver is in the order (400V or so, even larger), and probably 2-stage is requied. Just some thoughts, we`ll see...
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you don't want to see what *I* thik is complex... [message #30416 is a reply to message #30407] |
Sun, 06 February 2005 05:42 |
PakProtector
Messages: 935 Registered: May 2009
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an' I'm not gettin involved in no steeeenkin', hafff assssed SE amp. To take the position that a single stage of 5687 can drive a SE, leaves a fairly simple( for all you newly created CCS experts ) long-tail-pair/differential amp phase splitter to run it from. Since we're probably going to make our own custom OPT of between 5 and 7k a-a for loading the 2A3's it is no big deal to put in a pair of 10% E-Linear driver taps on the plate winding and again run with a super-simple single stage L-C B+. and then ther's the op point. Lower voltage means you can run more current w/o exceeding the plate rating. The input voltage requirement will be lower, but so will the phase splitter's ability to generate it. A -50 volt bias indicates a drive requirement of 100V p-p, which is possible with a resistive loaded 5687. A DC-tolerant PP plate choke might be indicated here in order to achieve maximum output voltage swing on min B+. With a PP choke, I'd be quite tempted to use a 6BX7 with mu=10. I am getting IT ideas as well. Phase splitt with an input tube working as a split-load. 12B4 will give performance like a 1:1+1 IT in that position. Feed a second pair of 12B4 riding a string of LED as a common cathode load bias arrangement. Load with the Lundahl 1660 PP:PP and you could even get some grid current with the 2A3 power stage. I bet it would overlaod very gently with such a driving arrangement. Guinevere will comfortably supply 10-15 vrms to the imput... regards, Douglas
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Principle schematic [message #30418 is a reply to message #30410] |
Sun, 06 February 2005 07:18 |
Damir
Messages: 1005 Registered: May 2009
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LCLC PS for the 2A3, (can be even simpler, say CLC :-)), plus RC stage for the driver tube. Driver tube has CCS load (can be anode choke as well). P is hum-cancelling pot, cathode bias is from Rk (+Ck bypass). I ommited "standby" switch (for pre-heating). For the 2A3 values of the output stage are: R3=220k, R4=1 kOhms, P=50 Ohms/2W, Rk2=750 Ohms/10W, Ck2=47-100 uF/100V, trafo Ra=2k5, B+ = 300V. V1 and the components - depends of the tube used (we`ll see), the same as of V3/secondary /Ufv3 voltage/current. Ufv2 is 2,5V/2,5A and Uhv1=6,3V/1A.
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