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Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life [message #90519 is a reply to message #90517]

Tue, 25 June 2019 10:04

Symphonimind
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Wayne Parham wrote on Tue, 25 June 2019 09:36

The Delta 12 Pro works in the three π cabinet, having an EBS alignment like the other drivers I've chosen. I chose the Definimax 4012HO because of its shorting ring. My upgrade driver has always been one with a shorting ring. But you're right that the Delta 12 Pro driver could be considered as an upgrade too.

Thank you a lot for your consideration. I have tested many Eminence drivers (luckily, I live near a Eminence distributor) and this is my list of best performing 12" EMI woofer:

1. DELTA PRO 12A: Best Bang for Buck. High power handling, really good LF transient and mid reproduction. The frequency response is almost ruler flat for a PA driver.

2. 4012HO: Excellent Performer. Yeah, shorting ring does magic to reduce THD, I love every bits of it. However, now, it is belong to the past. I am happy that I owned 1 pair in my beloved 3Pi.

3. 3012HO: Excellent High Output woofer. It has low THD (if 3rd harmonic is lower, it will be one of the best 12"s ever made) and really smooth frequency response. It also has lighter MMS than 4012HO, together with relatively high BL motor, high Xmax (6.2mm), extremely high sensitivity (>100dB). This is really unique driver. I have succeed with it in my 2x12 bass cabinet. Sadly, it does not have shorting rings. Thus, I think Delta Pro 12A is better mid-priced option because it is much cheaper and also perform really well.

3012HO Measurement

So, as I understand, will we have next 2 woofers in 3Pi Plan's driver list (one is Delta Pro 12A for mid-priced upgrade over Delta 12LFA, the other one is a high-end 12" woofer)?

I can't wait for the day you add Delta Pro 12A into the list. Many friends of mine also like that option a lot because it fits their bill.

And the last question:

How about an upgrade HF driver option with PSD2013 compression driver? BC DE250 is only a little bit higher priced, however, PSD2013 is much easier to grab in many places over the world.

Thank you Wayne.

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		Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Mon, 10 June 2019 13:59
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 11 June 2019 09:05
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Wed, 12 June 2019 11:41
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 12 June 2019 12:11
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: rkeman on Sat, 15 June 2019 20:24
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 16 June 2019 09:59
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: johnnycamp5 on Tue, 18 June 2019 14:40
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 18 June 2019 14:54
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Thu, 20 June 2019 19:15
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 21 June 2019 16:19
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Wed, 12 June 2019 13:34
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Tue, 25 June 2019 09:08
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 25 June 2019 09:36
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Tue, 25 June 2019 10:04
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 25 June 2019 14:01
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Tue, 25 June 2019 20:53
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: johnnycamp5 on Tue, 25 June 2019 18:58
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Wed, 26 June 2019 03:18
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Tue, 03 September 2019 12:07
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 03 September 2019 16:02
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Tue, 03 September 2019 23:11
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Wed, 04 September 2019 15:43
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Wed, 04 September 2019 21:55
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Thu, 05 September 2019 08:24
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Fri, 06 September 2019 22:16
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 07 September 2019 09:41
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Sat, 07 September 2019 17:39
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 07 September 2019 17:48
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mabob on Thu, 05 September 2019 06:15
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 07 September 2019 17:15
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Sat, 07 September 2019 17:59
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 08 September 2019 17:55
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mudshark on Mon, 09 September 2019 10:30
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 09 September 2019 11:20
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Fri, 27 September 2019 08:06
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 27 September 2019 09:22
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Fri, 27 September 2019 10:26
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mabob on Mon, 07 October 2019 08:01
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 07 October 2019 09:07
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Wed, 09 October 2019 06:20
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Mabob on Fri, 11 October 2019 11:42
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 11 October 2019 13:16
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: paulp1960 on Sun, 13 October 2019 10:16
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 14 October 2019 11:08
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: paulp1960 on Tue, 15 October 2019 06:33
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Thu, 12 December 2019 04:35
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 12 December 2019 09:30
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Fri, 13 December 2019 00:39
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Fri, 20 December 2019 00:23
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 20 December 2019 09:09
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Fri, 20 December 2019 09:16
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: DaveFred on Fri, 01 May 2020 09:30
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 01 May 2020 11:10
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Sun, 03 May 2020 23:21
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 04 May 2020 12:47
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Tue, 05 May 2020 22:58
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 06 May 2020 09:52
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: johnnycamp5 on Wed, 06 May 2020 11:30
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 06 May 2020 11:39
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Thu, 07 May 2020 06:49
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Tue, 12 May 2020 21:36
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 13 May 2020 11:01
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Symphonimind on Wed, 13 May 2020 23:33
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: DaveFred on Wed, 06 May 2020 13:44
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 06 May 2020 16:39
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Scott L2 on Mon, 15 January 2024 06:48
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: johnnycamp5 on Mon, 15 January 2024 09:04
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 15 January 2024 10:37
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Scott L2 on Mon, 15 January 2024 14:03
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 15 January 2024 15:34
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: rvsixer on Sat, 25 July 2020 11:14
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 26 July 2020 11:01
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: rvsixer on Sun, 26 July 2020 13:30
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 27 July 2020 10:24
		Re: Definimax 4012HO - End of Life By: rvsixer on Thu, 28 January 2021 14:26
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