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Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? [message #68912 is a reply to message #68904]

Mon, 08 August 2011 11:34

Wayne Parham
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Registered: January 2001

Illuminati (33rd Degree)

The one π and two π models are equally competent as surrounds. But you're right, the two π has a little more in the ~60Hz range. In most cases, you can consider them to be equivalent when used as surrounds but there are a few situations where I'd probably lean a little more one way or the other.

If the speaker will be placed in a bookshelf that tends to provide too much reinforcement in the lower vocal range already, then I'd go with the one π model. Notice I said "in" - not "on" - if the speaker is used on top of shelves it usually isn't an issue but I've heard speakers placed in shelves that emphasized the lower midrange. The one π speaker won't suffer as much in this situation, and is easier to fit into the shelves anyway.

On the other hand, if the speaker will be used on stands or otherwise away from boundary reinforcement, I'd probably lean towards the two π model speaker. It has a little more down low, which is welcome when used with little boundary reinforcement. I also like this speaker when mounted back against the wall, although the one π model is just as good in this configuration.

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		1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Mon, 08 August 2011 08:52
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 08 August 2011 11:34
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Mon, 08 August 2011 11:49
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 08 August 2011 14:18
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Mon, 08 August 2011 14:46
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Tue, 09 August 2011 21:40
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Wed, 10 August 2011 07:52
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Wed, 10 August 2011 08:12
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Wed, 10 August 2011 09:59
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Wed, 10 August 2011 18:39
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 16 August 2011 12:32
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 16 August 2011 14:52
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Mon, 22 August 2011 10:02
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 22 August 2011 10:15
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Fri, 26 August 2011 12:16
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 26 August 2011 12:40
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Fri, 26 August 2011 12:46
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 26 August 2011 13:29
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Sat, 27 August 2011 08:26
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Sat, 27 August 2011 08:48
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 27 August 2011 09:32
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Sat, 27 August 2011 09:28
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Sat, 27 August 2011 09:36
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Sat, 27 August 2011 09:53
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Sat, 27 August 2011 10:27
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Sat, 27 August 2011 10:55
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 30 August 2011 21:55
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 30 August 2011 22:40
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Wed, 31 August 2011 08:54
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 31 August 2011 10:52
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Wed, 31 August 2011 12:20
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 06 September 2011 09:05
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Tue, 06 September 2011 09:24
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 06 September 2011 10:20
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 06 September 2011 12:50
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 06 September 2011 15:46
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 06 September 2011 20:24
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 06 September 2011 21:42
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Thu, 08 September 2011 10:10
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 08 September 2011 11:37
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Thu, 08 September 2011 15:06
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Sat, 10 September 2011 11:39
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 10 September 2011 16:32
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Mon, 12 September 2011 21:57
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: jshupe on Wed, 08 January 2014 21:21
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Mon, 12 September 2011 21:58
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Mon, 12 September 2011 22:01
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: justphil on Tue, 13 September 2011 09:36
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 13 September 2011 09:57
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 13 September 2011 10:29
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 13 September 2011 10:59
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 13 September 2011 14:15
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Tue, 13 September 2011 21:10
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Wed, 14 September 2011 21:08
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Wed, 14 September 2011 21:17
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 14 September 2011 22:10
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Thu, 15 September 2011 07:39
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 15 September 2011 07:49
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Thu, 15 September 2011 08:14
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 15 September 2011 10:25
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Thu, 15 September 2011 11:32
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 15 September 2011 12:35
		Helmholtz frequency of each model By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 16 September 2011 09:41
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Fri, 16 September 2011 18:16
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 16 September 2011 19:30
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Sat, 17 September 2011 08:45
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 17 September 2011 09:00
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: smokarz on Sat, 17 September 2011 09:16
		Re: 1pi or 2pi for surrounds? By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 17 September 2011 10:45

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