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Did you guys leave me a slice of Pi? [message #44836] Mon, 28 June 2004 09:17 Go to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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Several years ago I had nearly all of the parts to build a set
of 4 Pi Pros but then some things came up and I had to scrap them.

Since then I have been thru several more speakers and other HT gear and now I am once again looking to build something from Pi.

Honestly I just cannot afford to do the 4 Pi Pros , right now my current system consists of Klispch RF-3IIs for mains and an RC-3II for a center. These are nice speakers until you crank them up , at which point (to put it bluntly) they begin to sound like crap.

The mains are being pushed with a Parasound HCA-1500A and my Pre-amp is an Aragon Soundstage , source components are a Denon DVD-2200 and a Sony ES 5 disc changer.

Anyways I believe I have a buyer for my front three speakers which will bring me about $700 to play with.
I need speakers that sound good when played loud , not harsh , not strained sounding etc. They don't have to go too low because I have a dual 18" IB sub that fills in the low end nicely.
The Theater 4 Pis are just too big so that does not leave alot..I wish I could afford the 4 Pi pros...anyhow I am not too sure there is a Pi speaker that fits my needs but I thought I'd check in and see what if you guys have any recommendations.



added pic. [message #44837 is a reply to message #44836] Mon, 28 June 2004 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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https://home.comcast.net/~bentvalve/pi.JPG

Re: Did you guys leave me a slice of Pi? [message #44838 is a reply to message #44836] Mon, 28 June 2004 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GarMan is currently offline  GarMan
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Ever consider the used market?
A pair of used 2226, 2426, and bi-radials will run you under a grand. A little higher than your $700 budget, but not by much.

gar.

Re: Did you guys leave me a slice of Pi? [message #44839 is a reply to message #44836] Mon, 28 June 2004 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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You could go with a Stage four π or Premium four π. I'm working on models that use Eminence Magnums right now, and they're really nice. These models have flux stabilization rings, so they're a good low-distortion alternatives to JBL Pro drivers.


Which Magnum? [message #44840 is a reply to message #44839] Mon, 28 June 2004 13:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GarMan is currently offline  GarMan
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Hi Wayne,

Which Magnum are you working with?
Have you had a chance to hear what the 12 sounds like? Doesn't look like it can go too deep, but seems very flat from 100 to 2000.

Gar.

Re: Which Magnum? [message #44842 is a reply to message #44840] Mon, 28 June 2004 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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I'm working with all of them, including one that hasn't been introduced yet, the B12 subwoofer.

The Magnum 12 is exactly as you've described. It's a very nice midrange driver.

Maybe a cheaper 15" alternative... [message #44844 is a reply to message #44836] Mon, 28 June 2004 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mollecon is currently offline  mollecon
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me that you're looking for a cheaper 15" unit to work in reasonably compact boxes? Compact for a 15", that is. Eminence have some that don't look to expensive - all from the 'American Originals' series (pressed steel chassis). The Gamma 15 will work in a box of 80 liters (~2.86 cu.ft.), tuning 42Hz, -3dB at 60Hz. In a bigger box of 118 liters (~4.2 cu.ft.) it makes 50Hz with tuning at 44Hz.

The Kappa 15 LF from the same series offers 42Hz in a box of 130 liters (~4.64 cu.ft.), tuning also 42Hz. In a smaller box of 100 liters (~3.57 cu.ft.), tuning 40Hz, it reaches ~47Hz.

The Kappa 15 has a 3" long throw VC and can take a lot of power, too. So I bet that one can play more than loud enough without distortion.

Just some suggestions - maybe the above units could be made to work well with some already existing Pi X-overs, perhaps with some small modifications? But Wayne knows about that :-) Good luck with your project.

Re: Did you guys leave me a slice of Pi? [message #44845 is a reply to message #44839] Tue, 29 June 2004 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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Sounds like the Magnums might be just what I need, was Eminence aiming to compete with JBL's 2226H and the likes with the Magnums?

When about's are you going to have something ready with the Magnum drivers? I am ready to build pretty soon.

Re: Did you guys leave me a slice of Pi? [message #44847 is a reply to message #44838] Tue, 29 June 2004 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James W. Johnson is currently offline  James W. Johnson
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Actually I see Parts Express has the 2226H on sale for $299 and the 2426H is less....I wonder if the dealer pricing on JBL products is good because I could sign up to be a dealer at PE fairly quickly since I do have a small business license.

Wayne can beat that [message #44848 is a reply to message #44847] Tue, 29 June 2004 10:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Check out his site.

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