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LED values? [message #30349] Tue, 01 February 2005 20:35 Go to next message
colinhester is currently offline  colinhester
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I remember somewhere that the LEDs are supposed to be around 20mA apiece. I do not remember if there is was a specified voltage. Can anyone refresh my memory?

Re: LED values? [message #30350 is a reply to message #30349] Wed, 02 February 2005 03:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Light-emitting diodes are like other diodes, in that they are formed by a semiconductor PN junction. The semiconductor material of the junction is what sets the voltage required to forward-bias it. For example, germanium diodes are forward biased at 0.3v and silicon diodes at 0.7v. That's what sets the operating voltage of a silicon of germanuium transistor too.

Light-emitting diodes use different semicondutor junctions to provide different colors, and each has a different forward-voltage requirement, usually between 1 and 4 volts. The typical red LED requires about 1.7 volts. Semiconductor junctions that provide higher frequency colors require higher forward voltage bias.

Red lead [message #30351 is a reply to message #30350] Wed, 02 February 2005 05:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PakProtector is currently offline  PakProtector
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Hey-Hey!!!,
The red seem to be the quietest. It could be done with a 4V single, perhpas green or blue, but I have found even orange ones to contribute some noise. Perhaps it was just the Radio-Shack ones I tried, but...

The 20 mA red, standard red, are the ones you want. The internal resistance of the specialty red ones is not optimum for Audio use.
regards,
Douglas

Re: Red lead [message #30355 is a reply to message #30351] Wed, 02 February 2005 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Those little LEDs always make me think of fireflys.

What about using a string of regular silicon diodes? I've used them to bias circuits a lot, but the first time I saw an LED used for this was in the CCS on Bottlehead stuff. You get higher forward-bias voltage with an LED than a regular solid state diode but you can sure use a series string instead. I always thought the LEDs were used for effect as much as anything else.

interesting... [message #30358 is a reply to message #30355] Wed, 02 February 2005 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a feeling that a small string of Schottky would be a cool idea. Forward biased at ~.4V each. We'd need more than two, but it would offer a far finer adjustment of the bias voltage.

I suspect that the Schotky would be quieterin fwd bias than a Si one would be. Nice suggestion I must say. If I didn't need a 20-30 of them in the new one ( instead of 6 red LED's ), I'e be solderig up a string.
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Douglas

Re: interesting... [message #30359 is a reply to message #30358] Wed, 02 February 2005 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Schottky diodes might be attractive. But the problem is that the voltage across them is much lower, so you'd need even more of them.

Re: LED values? [message #30363 is a reply to message #30349] Wed, 02 February 2005 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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For the adventurous, a 6BE3 TV damping diode @ 15mA current should give approx 3-3.5 V bias voltage.

Saw this done this way on the Axiom Amp. Haven't tried it, but it sure looks interesting.

Joe

Re: LED values? [message #30371 is a reply to message #30350] Wed, 02 February 2005 16:13 Go to previous message
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The red LED at RS were rated between 2.1 and 2.3V, and ranged anywhere from 15 to 60mA current draw....Colin

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