Suggestions for replacement driver for buddies DJ rig [message #17216] |
Wed, 01 December 2004 15:43 |
pickle
Messages: 24 Registered: May 2009
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The probably belongs in the PA forums, but thought I might get quicker response here. My buddy has two big Peavy bass bins. They were equipped with the Peavey Black Widow 18 inch driver model 1801. I have discovered that both of the drivers are now inop. As a side note, his WHOLE trailer of DJ gear was stolen at night 3 weeks ago. He even had a regular good hitch lock on it! Anyway, since these bins weren't working, they were in the garage. I took the drivers out, and yes, they don't work. Now, since he has to start replacing gear anyway, I'm suggesting using the existing cabinets and putting better, beefier drivers in. I finally found the PDF for the cabinet; turns out it really is less like a sub and more just a big woofer. The cabinet tuning is 42hz BR. It is down something like -3db at 42 hz and -10db at 35hz. I was thinking of suggesting a PE 500 or 1000 watt sub plate amp, and a different driver. My question is, what driver would you recommend for this box? Perhaps one that is capable of better VLF performance, even though the box tuning is high? I think I'd like to recommend something under $250 per driver. I don't think I want to mess around with having him change the box tuning, although perhaps we could add some more fill and effectively lower it. Anything in PE's 18 woofer selection that looks like a decent performing choice to you guys?? Or perhaps, even though the box is tuned to 42, with the right driver and some possible EQ boost from the plate amp, we can get it a bit deeper?? Thanks MBB
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Re: Suggestions for replacement driver for buddies DJ rig [message #17217 is a reply to message #17216] |
Wed, 01 December 2004 16:29 |
GraemeG
Messages: 54 Registered: May 2009
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Bit of a look and quick modelling reveals : The B&C 18PZB46 (PE 294-674) looks a good candidate due to its Xmax figure, although just outside the price range.The box WILL have to be retuned as tuning is mainly a function of the port. The size of the Peavey box extends the low end of the B&C somewhat. From what I can tell with the photo of the Peavey, you can cut the port out to the bottom of the cabinet (keep same port width) and box it in with timber to a depth of 276mm (10.9"). This opens the port to minimise port noise associated with higher power and retunes it to around 38Hz. The response shows -3dB around 34Hz, with full power available, and a small hump at 40Hz. Should kick. Cheers Graeme
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Re: Also, where did you see [message #17221 is a reply to message #17219] |
Wed, 01 December 2004 18:57 |
GraemeG
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I just guessed from the photo that it looks to be around 12" wide and 4" high, and in most Peaveys the vent depth is just the baffle thickness. Whilst I have not used the B&C drivers myself, they have a good reputations and are used by a number of manufacturers such as Yorkville etc. Should be a good driver. Cheers Graeme
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Re: Port [message #17223 is a reply to message #17222] |
Wed, 01 December 2004 19:55 |
GraemeG
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Another good choice. With any of these drivers, a substantial increase in box power most likely will give rise to air speed noise in the standard Peavey port, so opening up this port to slow air speed will be required. Of course, this then means the depth of the port has to be increased for tuning, and may as well tune it to where neccessary at that time. Cheers Graeme
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