| So how does this all work then..? [message #67506] |
Mon, 09 May 2011 12:29  |
spacejazz
Messages: 6
Registered: May 2011
Location: Australia
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Hi,
I've made my way here from reading the Econowave threads, which branched off in other directions, one being here.
I really like what I see but living on flattest continent on earth, the kits will be prohibitive to ship. So I came to the forums with the idea to haggle for plans and crossovers. The idea of using the B&C DE250 with a good woofer (JBL and AE are too expensive for now, but provide an upgrade path?)
Is it possible to purchase the plans with xo's suited to pre-determined drivers? I need help with woofer choice, clearly, but once that is established, is it possible?
Sincerely
Ken.
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| Re: So how does this all work then..? [message #67514 is a reply to message #67513] |
Mon, 09 May 2011 15:52  |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18786
Registered: January 2001
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You're not being a pain, no trouble at all. That's what we're here for!
And I know what you mean about the information overload! Sometimes, it can be just a bit too much. All the little details, and all for just two moving parts. 
You can purchase the crossover boards (populated or unpopulated) at the Pi Speakers shopping cart. See the link for prices. You can also use the shopping cart to get shipping quotes. Just put the items in the cart and start the checkout process. It will ask your address and provide a shipping quote before requesting payment information. You can order at that time if you want but you don't have to.
The smaller wood thickness (16mm or 5/8") is not a problem but I can't say for sure that the furniture grade plywood will satisfy. It's a little bit of an unknown, in that you can never tell if plywood has internal voids or not. Some plywoods - even pretty good panels - have voids between laminates that may contain debris. If there are any voids that contain debris, it will buzz.
Sometimes, pretty often, actually, you'll build a cabinet that sounds pretty good for several months or even a year or two and then one day you notice it buzzes. You'll think you have a problem with a driver and replace it, only to find the same sound. Then you'll realize it's the cabinet. What happens is the debris is held in place with a little bit of glue that squishes into the void during manufacturing but then later, the debris breaks loose. So that's the problem with plywoods. Those voids - the debris inside, actually - makes most plywoods a problem.
One plywood product that almost always works well is Baltic birch. The laminates are thinner and the glue is more likely to fill a void, leaving nowhere for debris to move.
Onto the woofer. The "stock" TD12S driver has a Faraday ring, and the Apollo upgrade adds to that. It's mostly for thermal control.
As an aside, there are three things in play with the conductive metal embedded in the magnet. One is flux modulation control, making a sort of bucking circuit. Another is the modification to voice coil impedance. And a third is wicking the heat out of the core. All three things can be improved by putting (thermally/electrically) conductive material in the motor core. Of course, this reduces the amount of magnetic material in the core, so you have to make that back up. But with proper placement of conductive material, you can improve flux stability, thermal dissipation and voice coil inductance linearity. The thing is, the optimum positions for the conductive material are different, depending on which of these things you want to optimize.
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