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Re: Is the difference.... [message #57032 is a reply to message #57031] Mon, 19 September 2005 19:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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The gas is taxed to a greater extent than it is here. It pays for the citizens to have health care and schooling and retirement. Not bad haah?
The rich people hate it.

Re: Is the difference.... [message #57033 is a reply to message #57032] Mon, 19 September 2005 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Martinelli is currently offline  Bill Martinelli
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I could afford ten dollar gas if I didnt have to pay for health insurance.

only thing is... [message #57034 is a reply to message #57031] Mon, 19 September 2005 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MQracing is currently offline  MQracing
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I don't know how much of a step forward electric cars (or hybrids) really are....

to recharge your batteries....most folks are going to be hooking up to con-ed (your local utility)... and how does con-ed generate electricity? By burning dinosaur remains... or... perhaps a nuke...

seems that we should be, at the federal level, encouraging decentralized power generation.... from the likes of windmills, geothermal, sun and etc.

instead of spending 300 t0 400 billion to secure the oil fields... it would be far cheaper to wean ourselves off of the dino remains.

I have some land upstate PA... about 30 miles from my mountaintop is a wind mill farm (with several dozen units operating)... and I just always think that, perhaps, this should be done on a grand scale.

though, interestingly, there was significant opposition to the wind mill farm by area residents.

cheers,

msl

Re: Pheew! [message #57035 is a reply to message #57022] Tue, 20 September 2005 04:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PakProtector is currently offline  PakProtector
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Hey-Hey!!!,
Hey Bill, just to clear up one thing: there is *NO* patent to infringe upon. This ongoing issue with Mike has very little to do with what sort of design I choose to base my E-Linear modifications on. Remember one of his posts a while back, it is a 1948 design. He is no fool, he knows that there is no protection offered to the design.

Patent a TX winding, and you must put its content and winding methods down for public inspection. I wish it had ben patented, all of them, because it would have expired and the record would still be a matter of public record. As it is one must destroy an original, working device. Mike's descriptions of the troubles involved with taking apart burnt ones is enough make me wary of that process.

It is more about blood, and how much can be spilled. Do you really think that winning the Jute war when Andre was removed from the scene changed Mike's way of doing business? Or his propenisty to fight over a loss of face? Have you ever seen Mike carry on a public disagreement with anybody over a technical issue w/o calling into the fight everything else he could lay his hands on?

It's OK, 'cause after all the BS he has subjected me to, like publishing my email on his MQ site w/o permission, I would not cry if some of his blood spilled.

My request for contact is an indication that I would rather see a negotiatd settlement, one which both of us will be able to live with. What I want and what I need and what I am likely to get are three diferent things afterall.
cheers,
Douglas

Re: Is the difference.... [message #57036 is a reply to message #57033] Tue, 20 September 2005 06:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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My point exactly.

Re: Is the difference.... [message #57038 is a reply to message #57036] Tue, 20 September 2005 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Insurance companies and government agencies are two institutions that I have no faith in, none whatsoever.

My aunt-in-law needed hip replacement surgery a couple years ago. She lives in a country that covers all health care, but basically that means they just let you die. They offered her crutches, told her to stay in bed. For people that have heart conditions, they don't pay for heart surgery, not even angioplasty. So those with cholesterol conditions are given aspirin to thin the blood, that's it. People who might live to 80 will die there at 50 because of heart conditions.

The thing I thought was impressive wasn't the government funded health care, that part sucked. What impressed me was that doctors and surgeons worked at reasonable rates. They are just as qualified as American doctors, and the implants and equipment available are just as good too. But, comparing prices to average wages there, instead of charging several years pay, they charged basically a few months pay. Public assistance gave you nothing except aspirins and band-aids but you could save a few months and get good quality care. I paid for hip replacement surgery for this aunt and it cost $4000.00 USD. The implant was a nice German part and the doctors and care was excellent.


Re: Is the difference.... [message #57040 is a reply to message #57038] Tue, 20 September 2005 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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How to reply to this.
The remnants of the old U.S.S.R. would seem to be a poor example of how to run government.
Lets try Sweden instead. There you would not only get your hip replacement for less than 4000$ but you would; at the age of 80, have a nice comfortable place to live and the knowledge that all your years of work were respected and honored and that some silver-spoon baby wasn't living like King Midas on the backs of your working relatives.
While you worried wether the local doc-in-the-box would give you a couple free samples of medication so you wouldn't need to dip into your food budget to pay for medicine.

Re: Is the difference.... [message #57043 is a reply to message #57040] Tue, 20 September 2005 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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I don't know anything about Sweden. But I agree with you that socialism is a poor way to run a government. In theory it would be fair, but the human element makes it a problem because the whole society gets bogged down in sloth.


Re: Is the difference.... [message #57044 is a reply to message #57043] Tue, 20 September 2005 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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What do you base that on? U.S.S.R. was a totalitarian state so they don't qualify. Cuba is boycotted so they cannot expect to be self-sufficient and forget about China; they are stuck with 5000 yrs of family baggage. How about Canada? Or Switzerland?

Re: Is the difference.... [message #57045 is a reply to message #57040] Tue, 20 September 2005 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
colinhester is currently offline  colinhester
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Don't forget about the sponge baths given by the Swedish Bikini Team while you're being fed Bon-Bons.

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