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Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #90919 is a reply to message #90605] Wed, 25 September 2019 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
malyh is currently offline  malyh
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I'd appreciate your plans for JBL 2226h and B&C DE250. Thank you in advance, mh
Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #90921 is a reply to message #90919] Wed, 25 September 2019 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #90935 is a reply to message #90921] Thu, 26 September 2019 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
malyh is currently offline  malyh
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Dear Wayne,

thank you for plans! I've just realized that my 2226 are 16 Ohm version (no H ones) Could the Pi 4 be done with them? Do you have by any chance a crossover for this "J" version of 2226?

Thank you, mh
Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #90937 is a reply to message #90935] Thu, 26 September 2019 10:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Sorry, no. The design requires the 8Ω 2226H.

Some people have reported using the 2226J in a modified design, but I have not seen measurements of such a speaker, nor have I made any measurements myself. So I don't know how much of a change there is.

People that modify the crossover for a 2226J double the inductor values and half the capacitor values in the woofer circuit. They also attenuate the tweeter 3dB to match the voltage sensitivity of the 2226J. This is done by changing R1/R2 values as shown in the chart below:
Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #90939 is a reply to message #90937] Thu, 26 September 2019 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bigyank is currently offline  bigyank
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One could always get those 2226J's reconed as 2226H and you'd be starting with brand new woofers for your brand new pair of 4 Pi speakers.
Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #90941 is a reply to message #90939] Thu, 26 September 2019 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #91231 is a reply to message #90941] Sun, 01 December 2019 12:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Esj is currently offline  Esj
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Hi Wayne!

Just bought 2226H's and other stuff, so may I have plans also for 4Pi, thanks!

Waveguides that you are selling; is that 50$ price for a pair or piece?
Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #91232 is a reply to message #91231] Sun, 01 December 2019 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Waveguides and crossovers are sold individually, so if you want a stereo pair, you'll need to buy two.
Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #91240 is a reply to message #81341] Mon, 09 December 2019 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mathiasb is currently offline  mathiasb
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Hello!

I'd like a set of 4Pi plans please. Got two 2226H drivers and looking for something to build. Perhaps with 4 channels and a 2x4 MiniDSP I can forego the crossover.

Has anyone heard or compared 4Pi to the DIYSG HTM-10?
https://www.diysoundgroup.com/home-theater-speaker-kits/home-theater-series/home-theater-monitors/htm-10-kit.html
Thanks
Mathias
Re: 4PI Plans Request [message #91241 is a reply to message #91240] Mon, 09 December 2019 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Barryso is currently offline  Barryso
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I've not heard the HTM-10's. There are a number of threads on other forums that go into detail about the DIYSG speakers and their designers seem well spoken and diligent. There are many folks that have built them that like them.

Thing is, you already have the 2226h woofers. These aren't the entry level woofers for the 4 pi's but the full blown upgrade woofer. They are also the single most expensive part in the 4 pi build - about $1000 for a brand new pair. It's a great woofer even when you have to buy them retail but you already have them ... IMHO it'd kinda be a shame to ignore them.

My $0.02.
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