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Ego Driven Manufacturers And DIY People [message #24348 is a reply to message #24346] Tue, 13 May 2008 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
chris is currently offline  chris
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I USED to breed Dobermans.
My Dogs were from Eastern European Bloodlines.
I became "Kennel blind" because my Dogs were "The Best", LOL
Many Manufacturers BELIEVE strongly in what they are doing.
Some Manufactures make chit products too.
One has to wonder if they are riping us off ITENTIONALLY, or out of sheer ignorance ?
I LIKE strong beliefs, and those willing to defend them.
Our Country was built on vigorous debate.
Let the Moderators keep that in mind ?



Maybe add "discuss with the Mfgr" a-la AVS Forum [message #24351 is a reply to message #24322] Wed, 14 May 2008 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brucemck2 is currently offline  brucemck2
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One of the things I've really enjoyed on several AVS Forum boards is when a discussion thread revolves around a particular manufacturer. For example there are terrific Audyssey and D2 threads that have that character, and there was a nice Q&A over several days with the guy that leads Krell.

The Moderators keep the anti mfg flames out of those threads. For example, not once have I seen an Audyssey poster flame a D2 room correction poster, or vice versa.

It's a nice way of having an intelligent ongoing dialogue with an intelligent manufacturer, while keeping the manufacturer vs. manufacturer diatribes down.

Re:no real problem here [message #24352 is a reply to message #24347] Wed, 14 May 2008 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lcholke is currently offline  lcholke
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I have not posted much, but I still check-in once a week. A new flurry of posts will come when a few people "discover" line arrays and need help building one.

-Linc

Re: I PLEAD "Guilty" Fred [message #24353 is a reply to message #24323] Wed, 14 May 2008 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Craig is currently offline  Rick Craig
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Chris,

The RM40 isn't even an array so why would you post a rant like that here anyway?

Great idea!!!!....nt [message #24357 is a reply to message #24352] Thu, 15 May 2008 01:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Darkmoebius is currently offline  Darkmoebius
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Oops, posted that to the wrong response...nt [message #24358 is a reply to message #24357] Thu, 15 May 2008 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Darkmoebius is currently offline  Darkmoebius
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Re: Hey Guys, Where Do We Want to Take this Forum? [message #24359 is a reply to message #24322] Thu, 15 May 2008 02:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Craig is currently offline  Rick Craig
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Being in the industry I understand that there will always be people who think I have an agenda when I post here. But consider this - if I talk about Selah Audio products I'm discussing parts that anyone here can buy from a distributor such as Madisound or Parts Express. I receive emails and calls on a regular basis asking for help and have given away a great deal of free advice.

Re: If you keep the discussion technical, [message #24360 is a reply to message #24346] Thu, 15 May 2008 02:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Craig is currently offline  Rick Craig
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In my case it's really not ego; in fact, I really hate arrogant and condescending attitudes. I don't always have to be "right" but I do have a low tolerance for BS and discussions not based on fact. Arrays are inherently very complex and any real discussion is going to generate differences of opinion. Like any speaker discussion there will be white, gray, and black areas.

Re: If you keep the discussion technical, [message #24361 is a reply to message #24360] Thu, 15 May 2008 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mediafreak is currently offline  mediafreak
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I guess 99% of all people do not like “arrogant and condescending attitudes”, but this is also not directly what I am talking about – sorry for the misunderstanding concerning “ego”.
Ego (“me” or “I”) believes in my self, and knows my opinions will make the world better.
Ego = “I know what is the best sound for me because I have done some investigations + listening etc.”
Ego = “I want others to feel the same because I like to guide others”
Ego = “this is my contribution to a better world – it makes me feel good to guide others to a better sound.”
Ego = “It is always wonderful if one of the others well known members in the forum will agree that I have one of the best insights in building speakers”.

Ego driven people that have some kind of respect for others will not be too arrogant.

I admit that I am Ego driven. I am thinking (I can never be sure) of you Rick Craig as a person with a clear Ego and with a deep respect for others opinions; because you write like you know what you are talking about. In my opinion it is mostly boring to read what non ego driven people are writing, because they are always indirectly asking the reader what they are thinking.

Rick C.: I don't always have to be "right" but I do have a low tolerance for BS and discussions not based on fact.
Mediafreak: So is it also for me. My ego accepts to be “wrong” but does not like it; and I have clear opinions (because I know it is best for ME and OTHERS = strong ego)- like low tolerance for those that will not respect this forums rules and intensions.
Mediafreak


VMPS Says It IS a Line Array - It MUST Be So ? [message #24368 is a reply to message #24353] Thu, 15 May 2008 22:16 Go to previous message
chris is currently offline  chris
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I mean Brian from VMPS wouldn't LIE to us Rick, right ?

Here is what he has to say

""There are three ways to operate the RM 40, so-called because of its 40 inch vertical ribbon mid/tweeter array. The first is full range, with a single amplifier as a source. The system presents a steady 4 Ohm load, resistive above 166Hz, with 90dB/1W sensitivity and enormous output and dynamic range. Second, more ambitious audiophiles can easily switch the system to the biamp/biwire configuration and run a separate bass amp through the speaker’s passive bass and mid/treble crossovers which, by the way, consist of all premium parts such as Axon polypropylene caps and hi-Q Erse 14 gauge laminated core inductors. The third option is biamping with the passive bass crossover removed, an outboard 24 dB/octave electronic crossover driving the separate bass amp, and a second amp running the ribbon panels through their builtin 6 and 12 dB filters""

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