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Looking to step in [message #20236] Tue, 03 August 2004 10:33 Go to next message
JeffM is currently offline  JeffM
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I need some recommendations for a speaker. I want to move into tubes and single drivers and am looking for opinions.

Re: Looking to step in [message #20237 is a reply to message #20236] Tue, 03 August 2004 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jim denton is currently offline  jim denton
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Fostex drivers are a good place to start for the sound to the $$$ invested---they are not the very best---but they are not the most expensive either-----Corals or Goodmans are great vintage drivers -----but I think some good advice is to study driver to cabinet function---what I am reffering to is DIY projects---- JD

Re: Looking to step in [message #20238 is a reply to message #20237] Tue, 03 August 2004 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lon is currently offline  lon
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The link below takes you a specialized discussion of
the full range driver philosophy of speakerbuilding.
It's for the Do It Yourself enthusiast.


There is a good range of info between here at ART and
over there.

Re: Looking to step in [message #20239 is a reply to message #20236] Tue, 03 August 2004 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
akhilesh is currently offline  akhilesh
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HI Jeff,
What kind of music do you want to listen to? How big is the room? What is your previous listenng experiencelike? the answers will help folks here offer information more pertinent to your particular neds.
thanx
-akhilesh

Re: Looking to step in [message #20240 is a reply to message #20238] Wed, 04 August 2004 00:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lon is currently offline  lon
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Try a cut and paste with this:

www.fullrangedriver.com


My Suggestions [message #20241 is a reply to message #20236] Wed, 04 August 2004 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
elektratig is currently offline  elektratig
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Jeff,

As others have mentioned, some more info about room, musical tastes, what you like and dislike sonically, price level, would help.

That said, here are a few suggestions, on both the tube amp front and the speaker front.

Assuming you can diy, and assuming you are looking for a reasonable second "bedroom" system that will give you a taste of tubes and single drivers, my suggestion for a very modestly-priced system would be a K-502 Stereo Integrated Tube Amplifier Kit from Antique Electronic Supply, http://www.tubesandmore.com -- all of $140!! -- driving a pair of Fostex FE208 Sigma drivers in Martin King enclosures, http://www.quarter-wave.com . I have precisely this system in my workshop/garage, and it puts to shame systems costing many times more.

If you don't want diy electronics, or want more power, the integrated amp I've seen recommended repeatedly is the Manley Stingray. I've not heard it myself.

On the driver front, I'd suggest you stick with Fostex -- not too cheap, not too expensive (IMHO). They're readily available (from Madisound) and there are many enclosure designs for them (including designs approved by Fostex, also at the Madisound site). I'm a big fan of Martin King, who has done a ton of work in the area, as his website shows -- and his designs are a lot easier to build than some of the horn designs! You should also take a look at Bob Brines's site, http://www.geocities.com/rbrines1/ . His FT-1600 design using a Fostex FE167E driver is on my short list.

Again, give us some more specifics and I'm sure we can give you further suggestions.


Thanks, and clarification [message #20242 is a reply to message #20236] Wed, 04 August 2004 10:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JeffM is currently offline  JeffM
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Thanks to all for your input. I am not really sure what I am searching for but I'll know it when I hear it. I can do some DIY, soldering and putting things together is OK. SET looks like the way to go but I haven't ruled out other options either. As for speaks, I am leaning towards transmission line or ported but small horns are a possibility.

Re: Thanks, and clarification [message #20243 is a reply to message #20242] Wed, 04 August 2004 12:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin is currently offline  Martin
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Hi JeffM,

You wrote :

"SET looks like the way to go but I haven't ruled out other options either."

I know that SET is the politically correct amp to pair with a high efficiency full range driver. But don't rule out the option of higher power SS amps. I also recognize that my opinions are completely different from 99% of the single driver users.

I don't use tubes and have a 200 watt SS amp driving my Lowther and Fostex designs. I am going to be upgrading the amp and preamp soon and will stick with SS. I like SS because it gives the speaker designer a number of degrees of freedom that a low power tube amp will not allow. The combination of higher power SS, passive filters, and full range drivers can work very well. I have not heard any real negative comments from diehard tube users who have heard my system. On the other hand, I have not lived with tubes so my experience is limited to observations I have made reading posts on the various forums dealing with single driver speakers.

Hope that helps,

Martin

Re: My Suggestions [message #20244 is a reply to message #20241] Wed, 04 August 2004 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin is currently offline  Martin
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elektratig,

Thank you very much for the vote of confidence! Positive feedback is always greatly appreciated.

I second you recommendation concerning Bob Brines's site, he has a great way of explaining the workings of TL's in a simple and clear style. Great reading, I have learned a lot from Bob and his site.

Martin

Far be it from me . . . [message #20246 is a reply to message #20243] Wed, 04 August 2004 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
elektratig is currently offline  elektratig
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to disagree with Martin, but nothing beats a good SET amp!

In all seriousness, I listen to SETs (principally Welborne Laurels), a 40W push-pull EL34 (Assemblage) and a 100W ss (AKSA) and I enjoy them all, but there's something about a SET amp that's really special.

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