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Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Can a measurement system tell accurately whether the device being measured is a Stradivarious or a run-of -the mill violin? Assuming identical initial conditions.

Well of coarse it can [message #17510 is a reply to message #17509] Thu, 27 January 2005 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can detect it using the inverse phase inverter modulator or sum thin like that.

Re: Well of coarse it can [message #17512 is a reply to message #17510] Thu, 27 January 2005 17:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have one of those in my junk box; I think. Is it round?

Re: Well of coarse it can - Actually, yes [message #17514 is a reply to message #17512] Fri, 28 January 2005 05:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's a long story, and I don't have all the details.

A buddy of mine who's professional expertise includes mechanical vibration spectrum analysis and is also an experienced woodworker was asked by a friend to fix his violin. My buddy had absolutely no idea about how to do it, but he likes a challenge.

He downloaded a spectral plot of a Stradivarius from some web site and then compared the response to the violin he'd been given to fix. He then poked and prodded until he found something amiss - he knew he'd found (and fixed) the problem when the two plots were very similar (some glue joint that had come loose, I think.)

Actually, there's not too much old Jim hasn't tried. If you're interested in how he fixed the violin (or how to carve stone, cast gold, design a 3500 HP pump, paint flowers or build a wooden canoe) I'm pretty sure he be delighted to tell you about it.

Sorry, I messed up the link [message #17515 is a reply to message #17514] Fri, 28 January 2005 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wunhuanglo is currently offline  wunhuanglo
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Jim Corley

Re: Sorry, I messed up the link [message #17516 is a reply to message #17515] Fri, 28 January 2005 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like a renaissance man!
-akhilesh

Re: Measurements [message #17517 is a reply to message #17509] Fri, 28 January 2005 07:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think so. A strad will have different frequency plots, different waterfall plots, and different distortion numbers. If thery ewer identical between two violins, I think you have the same violins, sonically speaking.
-akhilesh

Neat site! [message #17523 is a reply to message #17515] Sat, 29 January 2005 06:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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What an interesting guy. I like the yearly engineering contest he sponsors, that's neat. He's a very good artist too. Thanks for the link!

Re: Well of coarse it can - Actually, yes [message #17531 is a reply to message #17514] Mon, 31 January 2005 15:36 Go to previous message
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I've repaired hundreds of violins. The only test equipment needed is your ears. Violins are actually quite easy to repair and usually not hard to track down the problem. It's only wood and glue.

Dave

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