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Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57895 is a reply to message #57894] Tue, 24 January 2006 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Leland Crooks is currently offline  Leland Crooks
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Just the last 4 or 5. Aside from his "with me or against me mentality" which I could live with, his squandering of the international goodwill after 9/11 is the single most egregious thing he's done. The whole world was behind us. Even lots of folks who don't like us. With a little diplomacy, we could have been standing astride the world as an even greater beacon of democracy. And still have gone after the terrorists, possibly even his pet project Iraq. As it is now, we've become almost a pariah, it will take 20 years to recover. Only our economic and military strength make them listen now, our moral highground has washed away like a New Orleans dike.

Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57896 is a reply to message #57894] Tue, 24 January 2006 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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The MSHA after the 1977 legislation cut mine deaths by more than half. The Bush administration appointee's cut 10% from the agencies budget; 9% of the mine safety inspectors from 1180 to 1043; disregarded the fines levied against private non-union mine owners and lowered the fine's on average more than 250%; from an average of 1500$ for an infraction to less than 150$ then never even collected the fines; backlogged over two years. They rescinded the two exit regulation and refused to implement the GPS system and the oxygen station safety system.
The mine owners responsible for this Sago incident gave the Bush campaign well over a million dollars in donations.

Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57897 is a reply to message #57895] Tue, 24 January 2006 05:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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9/11 was the action of a criminal gang of Saudi extremists. The proper venue for investigation and apprehension of the criminals who blew up the World Trade Center was the international police and the FBI. They would have captured Osama by now. With the co-operation of the whole world offered by almost every nation of whom most lost people in the bombing. Instead we went to another country to steal oil for the friends of George.

Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57898 is a reply to message #57875] Thu, 26 January 2006 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fitz is currently offline  fitz
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Well there were 47 coal mine deaths in 1995, as opposed to 22 in 2005. The highest in 10 years.

Bush pulled a pretty neat trick under Clinton.

Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57900 is a reply to message #57898] Thu, 26 January 2006 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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I see you looked at the first mining safety site listed on the web.
Without going deeply into the data here is the comparison.
In 1995 there were just shy of 143k miners working. They mined just shy of 200 million tons of coal.
In 2005 there were 103k miners mining just shy of 146 mill tons of coal.
The percentage of deaths per ton of coal mined and the no of mine workers equals .o32% in 1995 vs .022% in 2002. There are numbers of years during the Clinton administration where the average mine death per worker/tons mined is lower than the .022% figure. 1995 was a year in which; due to a spike in coal prices there were mines opened that were not safe and did not comply with the Mine Safety Act of 1977 and 1985.
There is much more to this story but don't quote the figures for one year like somehow that tells the whole story.

Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57901 is a reply to message #57900] Thu, 26 January 2006 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fitz is currently offline  fitz
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Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57902 is a reply to message #57901] Thu, 26 January 2006 16:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Clinton was down in the mine clearing out the debris and hammering up supports. He fixes the mines all by himself.
Clinton hasn't been president for over 5 yrs. But you guys still bring him up; miss him ehh?
Most reasonable people wish he could run again.

Re: Mine Safety and Bush [message #57903 is a reply to message #57902] Thu, 26 January 2006 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fitz is currently offline  fitz
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Thanks for confirming my post. Have fun complaining.




Re:Yep; things are much better now., [message #57904 is a reply to message #57903] Thu, 26 January 2006 17:32 Go to previous message
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