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Who? [message #30167] Thu, 20 January 2005 19:44 Go to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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I think we may be the only two so far; at least I haven't heard of any others and even if Wayne decides to build it is still only three; is that accurate?. I may order and eat the 12$ What is the concenses out there? Also the choke is 75$ pretty steep but what I would ask is how flexible is this piece of iron; does it have multiple use advantages? Thanks J.R. Also anyway can we get one certain schematic as a whole in one peice by any chance, again thanks.

Who's on first [message #30168 is a reply to message #30167] Thu, 20 January 2005 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yeah, we're looking right at $150 for two hunks of iron. I think I got the signal path straight in my head.

I'm still fuzzy on the PS. Are there going to be three tubes, two diodes and one rectifier? I think the rest of the B+ PS is the tranny, choke and cap.

I'm going to order some shieled 2-conductor wire w/drain (Belden 8450). This is what Doc used in the new SEX kit. Want me to pick some up for you? No problem to throw it in the mail your way.....Colin


What's on second [message #30169 is a reply to message #30168] Thu, 20 January 2005 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The PS choke is a bit on the expensive side. If we stick to a max of 20 mA load the Hammond 30 Hy/40 mA choke shold do fine. I got the big one because I want to run 40-50 mA and need a bigger choke. Don't feel it is absolutely rquired...matter of fact I have heard 5687 sound good from a few mA on up. We do need to hit critical current for the choke input PS filter, so 7 mA per valve is probably a reasonable min. I wanted to get away from such a small window. Using the choke in a L-C filter reequires de-rating its maximum current, 40 mA to ~25 seems reasonable.

The PS with the custom power Iron will use two diodes. I suggested using the 6CA4 which is a pair of diodes in the same envelope, sharing a cathode( which we'd tie together anyway ), and a 6.3vac/1A heater for its indirectly heated cathode. The high voltage winding will have its center tap grounded( probably best to attach directly to the capacitor, and do a single ground point, a.k.a. star grounding.

This site keeps comming up when I search for a drawing. V1 and V2 can be a single valve( GZ34/5AR4 or 6CA4 ), or as drawn if you decide to use damper diodes, which come one diode to an envelope. The resistive load is of course substituted for our amplifier section.
regards,
Douglas


Re: What's on second [message #30170 is a reply to message #30169] Thu, 20 January 2005 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I understand now. Thanks again so much for your effort.....Colin

Hammond Choke [message #30172 is a reply to message #30169] Thu, 20 January 2005 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Found this at angela.com: 157G 30H, 40ma, 595 ohms, 400VDC. EACH $16. Is this OK to go with? It'll save about $60....Colin



Re: Who? [message #30175 is a reply to message #30167] Thu, 20 January 2005 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm in, just busy. I've a handful of projects going right now.

that's the one... [message #30177 is a reply to message #30172] Fri, 21 January 2005 06:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That will do nicely, and is the original I had in mind.

Just remember, I like big Iron, and if I can use it laer, I may get something even more expensive. There are probably other appropriate chokes out there, I have not found detailed specs on them or gone looking very hard to find them.

With very few wxceptions everything in the parts list has multiple supliers of acceptable parts.
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Douglas

Re: Who's on first [message #30181 is a reply to message #30168] Fri, 21 January 2005 07:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well yeah; that would be great. Whatever length you go with and I will reimburse accordingly. I am pretty sure there is only one rec tube. At the risk of being wrong that tube is a dual rec tube. I will e-mail the address; Thanks J.R.

also...more L options [message #30188 is a reply to message #30172] Fri, 21 January 2005 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the 20 Hy/100 mA 193C might be an option for builders using a shunt regulated PS. It is a nice looking item, and its critical current is well within those required with VR tube designs.

Actually, according to the PSUD sims I just ran, critical current seems to be a bit over 12 mA for a 250V input, so this may be a better place to start than the 157G.

Note as input voltage goes up, so does critical current.
regards,
Douglas

Re: also...more L options [message #30190 is a reply to message #30188] Fri, 21 January 2005 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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The 193C it is. From Angela.com: 193C 20H, 100ma, 181 ohms, 600VDC. EACH $25

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