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chips and tubes [message #10238] Mon, 06 December 2004 10:32 Go to next message
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You're right Wayne, but why is it that the chips are acceptable to the SET guys? Audio Twilight Zone. They absolutely do sound better than sand amps.

Re: chips and tubes [message #10239 is a reply to message #10238] Mon, 06 December 2004 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Maybe some see it as a minimalist approach? Maybe the fact that there is one physical device seems like fewer parts in the signal path to some?

Re: chips and tubes [message #10240 is a reply to message #10239] Mon, 06 December 2004 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you listened to them and if so what is your impression? See, I think building them into the Pi 2 box might be nice.

Re: chips and tubes [message #10241 is a reply to message #10240] Mon, 06 December 2004 21:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would be careful about mounting a GC in the cab or even on it. Caps used on the P/S rails really dont like any kind of vibration.
ron

Re: chips and tubes [message #10242 is a reply to message #10240] Tue, 07 December 2004 00:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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To tell the truth, one of my favorite receivers was a 1980 model Yamaha that used a single 80 watt chip for most of the amp circuit. I also have a bunch of chips that were used as repairs for car stereos and other stuff. Some of them sounded really nice as I recall but I haven't blown the dust off any of that stuff in a long time.

Re: chips and tubes [message #10243 is a reply to message #10241] Tue, 07 December 2004 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Anyway you could shock mount them?

Re: chips and tubes [message #10244 is a reply to message #10242] Tue, 07 December 2004 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne; I too have had chip based recievers including NAD and the old Yamaha cr series. My brother-in law has it still. I don't rememmber them sounding as good as these little chip amps. I am going to ask him to let me try it again but I still don't understand why there would be this difference. Is it due to the construction of the chip; or different materials or implementation? I know it isn't my imagination because I still have the NAD and it most assureadly doesn't equal this little GT kit. What can it be? Shorter signal path? Thanks, J.R.

Re: chips and tubes [message #10245 is a reply to message #10244] Tue, 07 December 2004 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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>I don't rememmber them sounding as good as these little chip amps.

It may be due to the switches, tone controls, etc. usually included in the signal path of a reciever........mike

Re: chips and tubes [message #10246 is a reply to message #10245] Tue, 07 December 2004 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You think the switches would have that much of an impact? The Yamaha has a tone control defeat feature. So does the NAD.

Re: chips and tubes [message #10247 is a reply to message #10246] Tue, 07 December 2004 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I know switches can have some impact (depending on quality, condition, etc.). Also there is all the wiring used to route the signal. These effects may be subtle, but are additive. Besides, I think that there is usually a preamp stage which is unneeded if your gain is fixed high enough with the chip itself........mike

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