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Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6723] Mon, 17 April 2006 09:42 Go to next message
Leland Crooks is currently offline  Leland Crooks
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Blake's 7, Hitchikers Guide, Dr. Who, and more. They seem to produce SF on a regular basis since the 50's. We just get sporadic bursts, whenever it seems hot. Space 1999 anyone

Granted, some of the BBC's production values leave a little to be desired, but the shows are usually pretty good.

Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6728 is a reply to message #6723] Mon, 17 April 2006 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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I don't have sci-fi channel, so I've been missing Dr. Who. But I hear it will be out on DVD soon, and I'm anxious to see it!


Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6730 is a reply to message #6728] Mon, 17 April 2006 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The new series is amazing. All the old camp, new better effects, and Christopher Eccles is a great Doctor. I understand he only did this one season, which is too bad.

The most recent episode, "Dalek" was excellent, and not just by Dr. Who standards.

Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6731 is a reply to message #6730] Mon, 17 April 2006 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've heard the new Dr. Who series is excellent. I'm anxious to get the DVD!


Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6732 is a reply to message #6731] Mon, 17 April 2006 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think SF is more malleable in terms of sets and costumes; look at Star Trek. So then ipso facto the BBC on a low budget can pull this stuff off more easily than expensive drama series that require authenticity of appearence.
Plus the Brits are a little more astute regarding literature than we are.

Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6733 is a reply to message #6728] Mon, 17 April 2006 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Are you going to get the DVD?

Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6734 is a reply to message #6732] Mon, 17 April 2006 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What might be more to the point is why has Canada become so
good at it?


I believe Stargate SG1 and a few others of my favorites
like Babylon 5 and Earth Final Conflict (not on my fave list)
originated in Canada.


OTOH I don't buy the notion that all or any Brit science
fiction is good either because it looks cheap or sounds
literary. Even such attempts at class such as LeGuin's
"Lathe of Heaven" or Dick's ... wait I lost it... all
of them look dreadful. And Red Dwarf. There's one by Neil Gaiman too.

Piffle, every bit of it.


They did do The Prisoner way back when. But as I said
earlier, the Prisoner is in a class by itself.

Some may wonder why I spend any amount of time with
Stargate SG1. It's directed by Dom DeLouise's son for the
most part, the stories are trite and melodramatic, the
acting is operatic on the part of most of the god-like
aliens and... well the list is quite long such as
the fact that projectile weapons never have ricochets inside
the alien spacecraft. Jeez.


But what show has lasted 10 seasons with such outlandish
characteristics besides this one?

I think the answer is that it's a propaganda show sponsored by
the military to make enlisting look glamorous. After all,
the SG1 team can defeat superior firepower and technology
with handguns and C-4 explosives. It's sort of a variation
on the video game-referenced ads on tv for "Be all you can be"
with the A-Team being the primary source material.

If you have any doubt about these speculations, I suggest
a documentary called "Operation Hollywood." It shows how
the military has strict control over any production in which
its properties such as uniforms, vehicles or arms are used.
SG1 had full Pentagon approval. Even though I'm a peace activist,
I'm looking forward to the next dvd box.




Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6735 is a reply to message #6734] Tue, 18 April 2006 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Money. Production is far less expensive in Canada than the U.S. SG-1 is fun. It falls in that same category as Star Wars, fun, shootem up, could be a western sci fi. That seems to be the only type of science fiction anyone here wants to make.

Have you seen the new Battlestar? It's a great show, and somewhat of an exception. The characters are hard, flawed and Edward James Olmos is absolutely brilliant as Adama.

Another truly awful adaption was the Earthsea mini series by SciFi. It resembled book in name only. I quit watching about 1/2 way in.

It is a good time to be a sci fi fan now. Quite a bit to watch. After a very long dry spell, with only Star Trek in the 90's.

And I guess my original premise is at least the BBC tried for the last 40 yrs.



Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6736 is a reply to message #6733] Tue, 18 April 2006 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You betcha!


Re: Why does the BBC do SF and not Hollywood [message #6737 is a reply to message #6735] Tue, 18 April 2006 21:42 Go to previous message
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Well leaving the topic for fantasy (as above) I do have some respect
for the Gormenghast production from the works of Mervin Peake.


As to the Hitchhikers Guide done in the 70's, I cannot
remember much of it. I haven't seen the new one and don't have much desire to either.

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