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Ghost in the Shell [message #6062] Thu, 01 September 2005 12:25 Go to next message
brain_states is currently offline  brain_states
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Usally Im not a big cartoon fan, though I got intorduced into this anime craze by this movie. It is a mind boggeler about the possiblites of A.I. and defines them. It has all the elements of the matrix and was out way before the matrix ever was. It casued much anger towards the creators of the matrix after viewing, because they blatantly ripped them off. Blatantly I say....

Re: Ghost in the Shell [message #6065 is a reply to message #6062] Fri, 02 September 2005 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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That's interesting. I remember you telling me about the controversy. Might have to check that one out sometime.


Re: Ghost in the Shell [message #6071 is a reply to message #6065] Fri, 02 September 2005 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lon is currently offline  lon
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if you get into this stuff at all, find Last Exile by the Gonzo
group. Stylistically it's altogether different than GitS (either 1 or 2) but it is superior in most ways.


IIRC, Ghost In The Shell did some spectacular things
with 'holographic computers' like they used (and maybe
ripped off) for Tom Cruise film Minority Report.


Unfortunately the graphic at IMDb is not very good.

But this is a music and movies forum, so I'll conclude by
saying that the opening music has haunted me ever since
watching the whole 7 disc series: it opens with a
chord of traditional bagpipe picked up by a technobeat
with vocal.


Other Celtic musics are heard during this film
as well. It's these elements of surprise that make
Last Exile a superior product to some of the more
well-known animes.


Also seek out Grave of the Fireflies.




Re: Ghost in the Shell [message #6113 is a reply to message #6071] Thu, 08 September 2005 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Akira is another that those wachoski or however you spell it stole from that is excellent...

Re: Ghost in the Shell [message #6123 is a reply to message #6113] Sun, 11 September 2005 23:12 Go to previous message
lon is currently offline  lon
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I enjoy talking anime and have seen Akira a couple times.

Not my favorite.


I like Last Exile because I'm fascinated by the Steam Punk
genre and the classic "Grave Of The Fireflies" takes
the animated art to a place i really didn't think was possible.


And I'm not talking about _hentai_ either.

When possible I try to tie these film remarks to the
speaker stuff we usually discuss. Last Exile has some
very good and strange tuneage in it. The score uses bagpipe,
Celtic dances and some techno in the theme.


But I like to try to see the film in it's context of a tv
show.

In the world of Last Exile, 14 and 15 year olds are on their own.
They have independent lives and jobs and are self sufficient.
I think this is an important message in what we have come to see
as a world of infantilization and prolonged childhood: not achieving or wanting adulthood well past 30 these days.


OTOH a lot of anime is just cartoons without much significance.
But that rare find like Grave Of The Fireflies or Last Exile
keeps me looking for more of that quality. Armatige comes to mind\
as being pretty good. Do you know Kaena? I've seen that in the
stores.



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