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prices up [message #53363] Thu, 02 April 2009 19:42 Go to next message
solomty is currently offline  solomty
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Hy Wayne . has you tried to buy china made woofers I said this because the state of the art in loudspeaker manufacturing has rocket up from those days when late Mr .Robert Angus editor of Audio magazine made a trip interview 30 years ago (1978 ) .In those incipient audio china days I was skeptical that China could start a loudspeaker and electronics race against those giants USA audio firms .Now time has show that Chinese people ( with USA how now ) could rise the bar instance see the robust Eminence Kappalite 3015LF with Chinese riots of course , What a woofer .

Quality Control [message #53364 is a reply to message #53363] Thu, 02 April 2009 22:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Quality control is still very bad for most things manufactured in China compared to the standards I'm used to seeing. There are some exceptions, sure, but for the most part Chinese parts are still low-quality. Cheap, sure, but not so hot.

A good friend of mine is a mechanical engineer at a company here in Tulsa that manufactures engines made to pump oil wells. They have their own line of products, but they also import stuff from China. The reject rate of parts from China averages 98%. For every 1000 parts sent, only about 20 are kept. Can you believe that? I mean, why bother putting the stuff on the ship?

The thing is, that is how things were in the 1960's and 1970's with respect to Japanese products. Nobody would have bought a Japanese television or stereo in the 60's. We were still chuckling about Japanese cars in the 70's. But at that time, the Japanese cars were getting better and better while our government imposed impossible rules on our car manufacturers who then started making really bad cars. Before you knew it, everything was from Japan and it was good stuff, to tell the truth. Philco and Zenith were gone, Sony and JVC were in. The American car in 1980 was a pile of junk but the Japanese cars were getting better all the time. By 1990, everyone wanted a Honda.

That may happen happen with the Chinese market too. Certainly their quality control will improve, their products will get better and their reputation will reflect this eventually. At the same time, America may or may not remain in a position to compete.

If American companies don't stop outsourcing everything to save a buck, and if the government doesn't stop its insane tendency towards Socialism, we'll not have any market here in America to buy things because nobody will have decent jobs. If the labor unions don't stop reaching for increasingly unrealistic wages for certain industries, all our manufacturing and technology centers will either shut down or move offshore. The best stuff will come from China and Taiwan, and only silly little stupid stuff will come from America. I hope this trend towards outsourcing, subsidizing and borrowing ends very soon, but sadly, the people in control seem bent on going this direction.

As for me, I'll continue to do what I do best and to buy from the people and companies that I think make the best products, not just where they are made the cheapest.


Re: Quality Control [message #53373 is a reply to message #53364] Sun, 05 April 2009 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne-o is currently offline  Wayne-o
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That is the truth. All of it. Same thoughts here.

Re: Quality Control [message #53412 is a reply to message #53373] Sat, 11 April 2009 15:12 Go to previous message
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Here here.

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