| 7Pi slim [message #51343] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 11:55  |
j.luis
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Registered: May 2009
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Hy .Wayne ....Iam planning to build the follow speaker =a 2Pi tower as bass bin woofer atop the 7Pi mid-horn but instead of the recomended Eminence 10 inch driver goes the 8 Alpha MR and last a Eminence CD tweeter.So that the 8 Alpha MR goes good from 400Hz and up what changes must to do to make that 7Pi X-over have 400 Hz & 2Kh cutof frecuencies .For your help Thanks in advance Wayne .
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| Re: 7Pi slim [message #51344 is a reply to message #51343] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 14:00  |
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Wayne Parham
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Registered: January 2001
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Lots of changes there. I'm not sure I can give you much help other than general help. Here are a collection of thoughts, maybe you can make use of them:
- The eight π is essentially a tower two π with a midhorn attached to it. The driver is front loaded by the midhorn and the rear chamber is reflex tuned.
- The two π tower and the eight π give real good solid bass down to about 35Hz. Sounds very vice. So I think the Alpha 10 in a cabinet this size is a great budget woofer.
- Midhorn loading of the Alpha 10 in the eight π reduces distortion from the lower midrange frequencies up.
- Low frequency performance of a midhorn is largely determined by horn flare size, front and rear chamber size and the electro-mechanical characteristics of the driver. You can model the low frequency performance of a midhorn pretty well with Hornresp.
- High frequency performance of a midhorn is largely determined by front chamber size, throat shape and the shape and material of the exposed part of the driver's diaphragm. The voice coil cover is what is usually exposed, so this is what largely sets the upper frequency response of the horn.
- Midhorn design isn't rocket science, but it isn't trivial either. Swapping drivers often gives completely different results, more so than you might think from just looking at the drivers.
- The advantage of the seven π over the eight π is that the bass bin is separate. This reduces both harmonic and intermodulation distortion.
- The seven π crossover is low enough that woofer and midrange are closer than 1/4λ. This requires a low crossover frequency. Because the two drivers are acoustically close, a low-order crossover works well. Summing is good and localization isn't an issue.
- You can easily change the woofer/mid crossover frequency, but depending on the position of the drivers, they may not sum as well and they may not sound like a single sound source. It may sound like there is a separate woofer and midrange. This is the risk you take if you bring the crossover point up and the distance between drivers is too great.
- Similarly, it is easy to change the midrange/tweeter frequency, but the 1/4λ distance at 1.6kHz is about 2". To get summing right, the position of the tweeter must be within 2" of ideal. Depending on the crossover slope and differences between midrange and tweeter circuits (if asymmetrical), the drivers may or may not be lined up with one another. One may be ahead of the other for proper summing. But whatever the case is, you'll have about 2" of "wiggle room" at 1.6kHz crossover.
- The 1/4λ distance at 2.0kHz is about 1.5". To get summing right, the position of the tweeter must be within 1.5" of ideal. Depending on the crossover slope and differences between midrange and tweeter circuits (if asymmetrical), the drivers may or may not be lined up with one another. One may be ahead of the other for proper summing. But whatever the case is, you'll have about 1.5" of "wiggle room" at 2.0kHz crossover.
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