Wayne, check this out... [message #36319] |
Tue, 07 May 2002 05:48 |
Adam
Messages: 419 Registered: May 2009
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Response of an Eminence PSD 3003 in a waveguide, not so hot... :/ Maybe you should reconsider your use of this driver for high frequency duty. Adam
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Re: Wayne, check this out... [message #36325 is a reply to message #36323] |
Tue, 07 May 2002 19:08 |
Adam
Messages: 419 Registered: May 2009
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Illuminati (1st Degree) |
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Oh yeah I've been thinking about them, but I could buy a used car for what four of the friggin' things will cost me. That'll come to about three grand cdn man, I need four of them :(. I'm trying to keep the system to a 3-way design, and there aren't really any horns that will load from 200-2000 Hz effectively. perhaps that is my downfall, that I'm not willing to go 4-way. Perhaps I will consider it. 40-160, 160-800, 800-2500, 2500 and up? I don't know of any decent 8" drivers to load from 800-2500. All the Eminence ones are pretty high Q units... If I remember correctly. I'll have to take a second look. Any suggestions? Adam
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Re: Wayne, check this out... [message #36326 is a reply to message #36325] |
Tue, 07 May 2002 19:24 |
Adam
Messages: 419 Registered: May 2009
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Illuminati (1st Degree) |
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Woo nevermind, Eminence Beta 8" is packin' a qts of .31 I think and an EBP of 160 or so. Perfect for horn loading!!!! I just hope it sounds decent... Any experience here Wayne? Adam
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Re: Wayne, check this out... [message #36329 is a reply to message #36325] |
Tue, 07 May 2002 20:03 |
mikebake
Messages: 243 Registered: May 2009
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Any use for this driver? Maximum Output Transducers: 2012H and 2020H -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unlike JBL’s traditional SFG (Symmetrical Field Geometry) motor structures, the Maximum Output transducers employ a new magnetic structure with a copper sleeve symmetrically positioned on the polepiece above and below the top plate. This copper sleeve is located in a larger voice coil gap than is found in traditional designs, and provides significant reductions in both second and third order harmonic distortion with a single design element. Due to this innovative new magnet structure design, these transducers exhibit extremely low midband distortion and feature a very smooth, gradually rising response over the transducers' target operating ranges. A hallmark of these units is their enhanced dynamic compression characteristics. Power compression in all loudspeakers results from the increase in voice coil temperature and the consequent rise in dc resistance. Power compression at high operating levels can rob music of its essential dynamics. Professional users who are concerned with performance under long-term periods of continuous usage at or near rated power will find that these transducers exhibit approximately 3 dB of power compression at full rated power. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2012H 250mm (10 in) Midrange/Midbass Transducer 2012H Specification Sheet (Adobe Acrobat, 146kb) The 2012H Maximum Output transducer is specifically designed to provide smooth, low-distortion midrange output for the highest quality sound reinforcement applications. It is suitable for use in both direct radiator and horn-loaded applications, and can be mounted in small enclosures while maintaining smooth, peak-free response. 300 W AES continuous pink noise power capacity 8 ohm impedance 76 mm (3 in) edgewound aluminum ribbon voice coil 75 Hz-7 kHz response 100 dB sensitivity, 1 W, 1 m (3.3 ft) New magnet structure with enhanced distortion-reduction characteristics Net weight: 8.6 kg (19 lb.)
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Re: Wayne, check this out... [message #36331 is a reply to message #36325] |
Tue, 07 May 2002 21:06 |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18783 Registered: January 2001
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Look at the JBL 2012 and the Eminence Delta 10. They're 10 inch drivers, not 8 inch, but I don't suspect that matters to you. I think you'll find they will serve you well for horn loaded midrange drivers. A three-way speaker is essentially a decade-split system, where each subsystem must cover a decade. A decade is about the bandwidth limit of a horn, so a three-way split can be a nice solution. Two-way speakers require five octaves from each subsystem, and their main advantage is that of simplicity. There is only one crossover point, so there is only one place to consider the effects of overlap. This option is made possible since most speaker motors cover five octaves adequately. However, no horns have this kind of bandwidth, so horn loading can only benefit a part of system response. Compensation must be used if horn are employed over three octaves, so it is a "must" in horn-loaded two-way speakers.
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Re: Wayne, check this out... [message #36333 is a reply to message #36326] |
Tue, 07 May 2002 21:18 |
Chris R.
Messages: 82 Registered: May 2009
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Hi Adam, The JBL tent sale has a batch of 2123J's for $130. These look flat as a board, 101dB, ~200Hz-> 5-6KHz. 250watts. They are 16ohm drivers, though. Maybe those would fit the bill. Chris
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