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Re: Need help with room placement [message #18774 is a reply to message #18770]

Wed, 07 June 2006 16:05

SteveBrown
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Registered: May 2009

Grand Master

Wayne, help me, DI? What you wrote sounds interesting, can you say it again in English??

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Put your left toe-in....... [message #18775 is a reply to message #18774]

Wed, 07 June 2006 16:27

colinhester
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Location: NE Arkansas

Illuminati (3rd Degree)

Have you tried toe-in? Focus the speakers to cross several feet (5' or so) in front of your listening position and then move several degrees to a toe-out position. You should find a position where the depth/imaging/soundstage comes together. Also, are your speakers along a long or short wall? Try the other wall just to see if there is a difference.

I don't have the Cardas site at hand, but look on their site for some good info on speaker placement, if you have not already.....Best regards, Colin

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Re: Put your left toe-in....... [message #18776 is a reply to message #18775]

Wed, 07 June 2006 17:59

SteveBrown
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Registered: May 2009

Grand Master

Thanks, Colin! I have the speakers positioned about where the Cardas site recommends - about 55" from each side, and 80" from the back. The funny thing is that the JBL horns image wonderfully, but not the 811's. So I guess the problem is solved except I like the sound of the 806 drivers better. So I guess I need to find a 2 bolt to 3 bolt adapter.

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Re: Put your left toe-in....... [message #18777 is a reply to message #18776]

Wed, 07 June 2006 19:34

colinhester
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I bet Ron's got a set......Colin

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Re: Need help with room placement [message #18778 is a reply to message #18774]

Wed, 07 June 2006 21:16

Wayne Parham
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Registered: January 2001

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DI is directivity index. Collapsing DI is what horns with exponential and tractrix and shapes like that have. Basically what it means is dispersion angle grows narrower as frequency goes up.

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Re: Need help with room placement [message #18780 is a reply to message #18771]

Thu, 08 June 2006 09:28

Wayne Parham
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Registered: January 2001

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Watch out for nulls though. When a boundary is 1/4λ away, a null forms at that frequency. Two feet is 1/4λ of 140Hz, three feet is 1/4λ of 100Hz, and so on.

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Re: Put your left toe-in....... [message #18781 is a reply to message #18775]

Thu, 08 June 2006 17:14

Russellc
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Registered: May 2009

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This is exactly what I have found in my similar sized room. A7 s are in the corners, toed in to a point in front of the listening position. This gave a big Image with depth.

Russellc

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