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Rusty is currently online  Rusty
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I think the point of what you've been trying to say in this thread is there are some selfish and even corrupt people in this country using ugly force to do nefarious activities around the world.  You're saying it isn't fair and it isn't good.  You're saying there's a lot of manipulation and much of what we read and hear in the media is spin.

I'm saying its been a consistent behavior our government has crafted going on for longer than we've been alive. It has been a part of our foreign relations that our neocon mania induced ideology as the worlds sole superpower. The empire. Europe is but our cooperative vassal in this NATO scheme.

Our neoliberal economy is stretched thin now having succumbed to its inherent tendencies to eventually cannibalize itself with debt service on our people and trade deficits on our government. Over dependencies on imports has weakened our ability to thrive independently. Our world dollar standard that has been known for some time as our exorbitant privilege has been used as a weapon to hurt other sovereign nations economies unjustifiably.

We have tried to do exactly that to Russia, for years. In conjunction with our NATO expansion to rein in and contain that country. That is a long established policy having been passed on bipartisan from one administration to another to try and break up their nation. To neuter it out of our chronic cynical reasoning.
You're really off the mark though saying Russia's economy is bad. Data shows otherwise. That shows the competency of their government.

So when you say Wayne that Putin has evil intentions and empire, it's the mirror what your own country has amounted to in this world. The history shows it, the cover up promotes it. I think you're coming from a very micro oriented viewpoint. Based on relationships with a limited few amount of people and a lifetime of conditioning that our country crafts to assuage public sentiment.

The macro view I read gives a much different take on what has been going on for some time. Everything is interconnected so a broad view has to be considered. Without the intentional distortion that propaganda is used for. As the saying goes, "Actions speak louder than words". The cumulative actions that our country has exhibited over the years show a pattern of deception and deceit. That's been as counterproductive to ourselves as is to others. We are isolating ourselves by it.

You just discount it is all. In this ugly war that never had to be and with the other subjects I've brought up here in the dungeon. MMT, Israel, Politics and AI.
I don't expect to "change" anyone's minds here, I'm just giving my opinion is all. I make it a point to try and get more viewpoints to subject matter and try and piece together what makes sense to me. You mentioned once how the solar system was once an official standard that slowly came to be seen otherwise.

That's what I'm banking on. Probably not in my lifetime. From the real smart people I think anyway, that seem like pretty good detectives understanding this mess for what it is. I think their legacy is being passed on. There's some youngblood expanding on it.

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