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Re: Mono "flanking sub" [message #81703 is a reply to message #81698]

Tue, 01 December 2015 20:10

johnnycamp5
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Registered: June 2015
Location: NJ

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jonone wrote on Tue, 01 December 2015 17:05

Hi,I haven't tried flanking the mains with two, as I only have the "midbass" at the moment and my sub driver is not built yet.
They are quite different drivers so not the best match to make a stereo pair, I also don't have the space (or wife approval)to put the pair up front "flanking".
I don't seem to really suffer from smearing of the stereo image, and it's definitely not localisable on the same plane as the mains.
The driver is a very clean and can play up to 1khz off axis, my old sub that was regarded as "clean" would sound awful at 150hz, I personally think you need a different type of driver for flanking/helper woofers compared to distributed subs. Something to think about with your own system?

Your situation sounds very similar to mine, as far as
space for the two front subs, and the waf!

However, your sub sounds quite the opposite of mine.
Mine sounds very muddy and bloated, even crossed at 100hZ.
As I have said, it is a passive radiator design, with a 4db boost at 25hZ from the plate amp.

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/subwoofer-speaker-kits/scan-speak-discovery-30w-12-subwoofer-kit-with-passive-radiator/

This feature is pretty neat while watching movies but-

This boost in the amp gives me the impression it is more of a distant sub/home theater design, than it is a hifi helper woofer design, with clean, even response.??

I agree with you that I would need a different type of sub (subs) for the "flanking" configuration.
When I finish my basement, I will relocate my system down there, in which case I will have enough space, and freedom from the wife, to use/build two flanking subs Smile

Actually, I'm looking to buy two 3pi sub kits from Wayne.
I would like to know what plate amps he might recommend with them. My hunch is that no more than 200watts per sub would be required?

Also, Id better not show any pics of the room they'll be going in.
If members here see the two opposite corners with no doors or windows, Ill be forced to build the 7pi's! Laughing

Regards!.

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		Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sat, 24 October 2015 05:50
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 25 October 2015 15:20
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Mon, 26 October 2015 08:14
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 26 October 2015 08:44
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Mon, 26 October 2015 12:05
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Mon, 26 October 2015 15:06
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 27 October 2015 13:23
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Tue, 27 October 2015 18:14
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 29 October 2015 04:10
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Thu, 29 October 2015 11:24
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 29 October 2015 14:23
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Fri, 30 October 2015 05:10
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Fri, 30 October 2015 05:17
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 30 October 2015 16:37
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Fri, 30 October 2015 17:58
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sat, 31 October 2015 13:21
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 31 October 2015 15:37
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sun, 08 November 2015 13:52
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 09 November 2015 12:57
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Mon, 09 November 2015 14:44
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 09 November 2015 21:14
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Tue, 10 November 2015 14:06
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 10 November 2015 14:43
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Tue, 10 November 2015 15:21
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Tue, 10 November 2015 16:21
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 11 November 2015 14:16
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Wed, 11 November 2015 14:38
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Tue, 24 November 2015 11:01
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 24 November 2015 12:46
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Tue, 24 November 2015 14:01
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Wed, 25 November 2015 16:12
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 25 November 2015 18:08
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 26 November 2015 02:58
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 27 November 2015 16:23
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sat, 28 November 2015 11:29
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sun, 29 November 2015 14:41
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 30 November 2015 10:31
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Mon, 30 November 2015 12:27
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Tue, 01 December 2015 12:01
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Tue, 01 December 2015 16:05
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Tue, 01 December 2015 20:10
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Wed, 02 December 2015 02:58
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Wed, 02 December 2015 05:19
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Wed, 02 December 2015 07:07
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sat, 05 December 2015 08:27
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Sat, 05 December 2015 15:54
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sun, 06 December 2015 04:26
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 14 July 2016 03:00
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 14 July 2016 08:46
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 14 July 2016 10:50
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 14 July 2016 11:08
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 14 July 2016 12:39
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 14 July 2016 12:46
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 14 July 2016 13:01
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 14 July 2016 13:40
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 14 July 2016 14:30
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 14 July 2016 15:00
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 14 July 2016 15:32
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Fri, 15 July 2016 03:27
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 15 July 2016 08:36
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Fri, 15 July 2016 08:49
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 15 July 2016 10:25
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Fri, 15 July 2016 11:09
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 15 July 2016 13:41
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Fri, 15 July 2016 13:53
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 15 July 2016 17:16
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sat, 16 July 2016 01:37
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 16 July 2016 09:06
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sat, 16 July 2016 09:25
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Sat, 16 July 2016 11:48
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 17 July 2016 09:31
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sun, 17 July 2016 10:04
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 17 July 2016 11:16
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sun, 17 July 2016 12:05
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Sun, 17 July 2016 12:55
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Sun, 17 July 2016 15:31
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: johnnycamp5 on Sun, 17 July 2016 16:18
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Mon, 18 July 2016 07:52
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 18 July 2016 10:46
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Wed, 10 August 2016 13:25
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 10 August 2016 15:01
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 11 August 2016 08:00
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: Wayne Parham on Thu, 11 August 2016 08:40
		Re: Mono "flanking sub" By: jonone on Thu, 11 August 2016 14:54
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