Home » Sponsored » Pi Speakers » 4012HO vs TD12S
Re: 4012HO vs TD12S [message #78969 is a reply to message #78967] Thu, 16 January 2014 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
Messages: 18697
Registered: January 2001
Illuminati (33rd Degree)

The TD12S has excessive breakup above 800Hz.

When we first began using the the TD12S woofer, it did not exhibit this behavior. But last year, a customer came to me and showed me response of his speakers, which looked like what you see below. I then tested some other recent drivers and they had the same response. So we had to drop them.

To be honest, at first I thought it was a vendor problem at Acoustic Elegance, and that after bringing it to John's attention, he would get to the bottom of it. Either change cone vendors, or begin to advertise the speaker as recommended for use below 800Hz. Instead, I was surprised to see him deny this, and has even resorted to mudslinging.

So I'm here to respond to that right now. I encourage everyone to measure their own TD12S drivers. If you have sufficient resolution, and you have one of the "bad batch" of drivers, you'll see this kind of response in the far field, measured anechoic on a baffle:

http://www.pispeakers.com/Measurements/TD12S_response_unsmoothed.jpg
Acoustic Elegance TD12S woofer amplitude response


Here is a close-up of the impedance curve, showing the impedance blips where the cone is resonant:

http://www.pispeakers.com/Measurements/TD12S_impedance_detail.jpg
Acoustic Elegance TD12S woofer impedance, zoomed to show regions of cone breakup

 
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Read Message
Previous Topic: 3pi 4pi?
Next Topic: About H290S
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Mon Jun 03 20:06:06 CDT 2024

Sponsoring Organizations

DIY Audio Projects
DIY Audio Projects
OddWatt Audio
OddWatt Audio
Pi Speakers
Pi Speakers
Prosound Shootout
Prosound Shootout
Smith & Larson Audio
Smith & Larson Audio
Tubes For Amps
TubesForAmps.com

Lone Star Audiofest