All I remmember is sitting in my suede jacket and jeans while people with safety pins throgh their faces and needle tracks lining their arms spitting and slapping each each other and dancing like spastics to some hardcore thrash thing. Richard Hell or someone. And the bathrooms looked like the black hole of Calcutta on a bad rainy day; full of nodding persons of any sex laying across the toilets. . Max's Kansas City was a pretty good club though. I remmember the B-52's were headlined there as a punk group. You could hang out downstairs for free and watch the show but to get to the real action they had a special elevator that went up three stories. Guys like Joe Jackson would be sitting right there next to you drinking beer. Up there they had all this glass block and couches with a long glass bar. Anyway if you considor real punk then the Ramones I guess started that; but the guys I saw were real unknowns or knowns but not by me. Thats what I know about punk music.
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