Au Contrair'; thats exactly what I want to know and I appreciate the lead. Since this forum seems headed for a continous re-play of past greivances culminating in some kind of legal action then the best thing I can see to do is become informed regarding exactly what is at issue. "Fat Tony"; thats a good one. I watched on C-Span an interview/talk segment involving Souder and Scalia. It lasted about an hour and was truely interesting. This was a freewheeling style of conversational interview and both personalities really came across. Frustrating to see a personality that cannot give an inch or even acknowledge the other side has any validity in their arguments. Scalia is bright but stuck on certain beliefes that he can't seem to adjust or tweak even when his position is weak and the opposing arguments are completely overwhelming. He is a clever guy though.