the group build section-- notwithstanding your desgin, which I've not seen-- is gettting utterly stale...

it's just the hawking of one person's circuit design and his incessant shilling on behalf of one company who he claims to have a "close" relationship with... with not a dash of creativity or inspiration over the last several months... and it's effectively a closed forum that is dominated by one strong personality... not much room at all for others to creatively contribute... nor the climate which would encourage such contributions... it has become one guy's battlefield... fortunately, there are many alternatives.

When I've posted several proposals for recommending a viable, impartial, voluntary, and fair game plan as regards testing for example (and lord knows why that is even in a group buy forum).... each of them have been yanked down... that surely shuts the door toward creating an open envirnment that encourages participation, creativity, equal access, and etc...

I would encourage Leland to look around the web and see the really cool projects that are out there... you can email me privately at acrosound@aol.com and I will try to give you some pointers.

and Leland, stick around, it can only get better :=)

msl