Thinking about it I guess that would be a generic term for any pipe cover. I don't mean to seem uncharitable in these stories but you have to admitt you can't pay people nothing and get quality help; it's not even their fault, why should they know what it is, they don't get paid to be knowledgable. Even though that is a pretty common thing in home construction. OrCad looks good, I would like to become fluent in one of these programs to help learn circuits from the iside out. Just want to comment as long as I got you here how nicely the foruum is progressing. Getting really knowledgable posts that stay on topic is quite an accomplishment. Thanks for all your hard work. my goal is to learn enough to make competant posts myself for others to use. Thats why I bring up some of these oddball subjects. Compared to all you guys it is daunting to say the least. J.R.
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