Sorry but I have to defend myself here. As I understood our discussion it was a question about who does or doesn't pay their fair share of taxes. After re-reading the thread it still sounds like that to me. I think if we decided to drop trying to prove a point and instead searched for the real numbers it might be different. I insist that the wealthy pay much less than their share compared to other groups. Is that a better statement of the discussion? I mean why would I care if the top 5% pay 53% of the taxes when they pay a much lower percentage of their income than I do? Since the top 10% of the income earners make over 60% of the money then why is it fair they pay only 50% of the taxes. I am just asking here; not trying to prove anything. Again; why should I pay 30% of my income to taxes while the richest 10% pay 8% of their income to the govt? That is my point; the unfairness of it. You are in the same boat; you should be angry also.