But so did a Benz Ace Micro L cartridge and Nova Phenomena phono stage. I'm listening to the Benz now. Natch'. Both from Musical Surroundings.I did take them out of the box tho', and the fit'n finish is first rate. Heavy, too. And they have the copper shorting wrong. I'll try to get them set-up tomorrow in a temp baffle (the batspeakers have a 2123-sized hole) just to take a peak.