Yeah, they were used and a good deal but sat on my shelf for about 2 years so there's no going back to the seller, who you know BTW. I'll try some Delta 10's Ron has and he has a line on getting a recone at a price which is a lot more than I paid but still less than retail. I've made about 50 transactions with used stuff over the past 5 years and this is the first disappointment I've had. Not too bad.
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