I'll look at these closely. Please forward the technical info, diagrams for these. I was brousing the boards here, and I came upon a thread where you had explained something about "Nulls" as it relates to the distance to the corner (I think), also it seems that the 90 deg angle of the wall is critical. The ideal location for these, as it relates to seating, would be on the cealing corner where our cathedral ceiling angles up 30 degrees. This opens the corner up to 120 degrees.

I am concidering countersinking them into the ceiling by shortening the rafters and stabilizing them with a header. Sounds alittle radical I know well. . . I would build them in. . . Man, My wife is so understanding. She is really an awsome chick. Hummmm, well there was the time when I started the remodel. Going through the house ripping out sections, tile. . . etc, whatever. Well she went over to our preachers house that day(whose alot of fun) and told the group of friends there that I was going through the house with a "BFH"!!!! When asked by one of the elders what that meant. . . She told them exactly what It means.Auuuu she is fun. She ain't religious, but she loves the Lord and she loves me, I ~ her. . . sniff sniff,

Oh, did I ask for plans? I could use some plans Wayne.

Thanks Buddy.