Actually, having 4 people, lots of shopping & places to go was one of those good experiences that force us to plan everything better and cooperate a lot more than normal. Everyone made a little sacrifice and it all worked out for the better. Kids don't think I'm weird anymore, either, for doing a lot of my own work!Wayne, a German friend told me once that those little seats in the back of the Porsches are for German insurance rates. As long as they're in it, it qualifies as a four seater for their insurance rates and they get a break on the premiums. Good engineering, huh?