and may be an easy way to go. Price wise...how much are the emilars, anyway? I've bid and won as low as 100/pr on 511's, though 200 is probably more normal. And ABS is quiet, I won't argue that. The bowtie "smile"...that would take getting used to...removing the end bell from 511's,not something I advise, that would be a LOT of work. I'm just "knock off" phobic, I find "copies" of such american icons as the Buck 110 lockback knife personally distasteful, and am sorry to see it with horns too. If you like 'em, buy 'em. But patience will likely let you find "the real thing" cheap if you look around...Sam