If I may, SE is a strange bird. Some circuits sound great others so-so others sound like crap-ola. And I think SE is very speaker dependent. PP has a definate advantage in terms of LF weight and body, good power, good freq extremes and working well with most speakers. I like some SE's but my vote would go to PP providing the buildup has adequate support on the forum. Save some cash on the transformers also. Even considering the extra phase splitter parts. Should SE prevail I like Petes design. And I am sure there are some tweaks to be explored there. The only thing is Pete's amp uses different oil caps than Doug's. I already have the values from Guinevere so it would be great to be able to use them. Either way it's good to see some activity again. You know what would be nice. Scope readings and how to do them for these projects.