thank you Douglas, That is a very kind offer. The big problem is not so much it's size, but the field that it radiates. there well may be other issues like grounding or filaments involved but when i moved it out of the box, the buzz dropped 80% It is build into a stainless steel tissue box i found at Ikea with is half the fun and looks cool. If you have something a little better shelded ~250 CT and 6.3 I may ask for a loan, to get it up for the meet. I think I will order the habor as a longer term solution...John