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Re: Critical Listening [message #2541 is a reply to message #2539]

Tue, 20 December 2005 12:24

Manualblock
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Can I join the chorus? I like you'all am not an engineer and don't particularly keep up with methodology of measuring practice. What I am is an amatuer muscician for 35 yrs. We try to remain nuetral in these types of discussions because as I say we don't have the background to argue specific measured abilities of loudspeakers. But I ask; why are we relegated to this second-class status?
We all have extensive experience listening to live and recorded music and we all have good systems; so what exactly is the criteria we are not privey too? So we can't derive a frequency response plot or undertake to establish what constitutes a proper waterfall plot.
What we can do is hear. So the question should really be; what is the criteria for having the ability to make good judgements concerning what sounds good?
Do we need to explain the exact number of half-tones represented in the middle C on the keyboard?
Is someone who has perfect pitch more qualified than any engineer to design loudspeakers?
Can all engineers sing on key? I have heard a feww that when they sing it sounds like two cats fighting.
Should part of the requirements for setting yourself up as a designer be that you know how to follow a musical train of thought and replicate it somehow on your own without instruments of measurement?
Curious how this is the only hobby where you don't have to be expert in the point of the hobby; only in the ability to map it mathematically or measure it with instruments.
Sort of like someone taking up golf and just studying how to map the putting greens or wrap a club handle.

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		Re: Critical Listening By: akhilesh on Sun, 18 December 2005 20:15
		One of the reasons By: MWG on Sun, 18 December 2005 22:36
		B&W midrange By: Duke on Mon, 19 December 2005 00:25
		Re: B&W midrange By: Manualblock on Mon, 19 December 2005 06:43
		long division in your head during sex By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 19 December 2005 08:37
		For me it would have to be short division :) (NT) By: MWG on Mon, 19 December 2005 20:31
		Re: One of the reasons By: Bob Brines on Mon, 19 December 2005 06:24
		Re: Critical Listening By: Bob Brines on Mon, 19 December 2005 06:16
		Re: Critical Listening By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 19 December 2005 08:33
		Re: Critical Listening By: elektratig on Mon, 19 December 2005 11:09
		Re: Critical Listening By: MWG on Tue, 20 December 2005 07:44
		Re: Critical Listening By: Manualblock on Tue, 20 December 2005 12:24
		For the record :) By: MWG on Wed, 21 December 2005 19:30
		Re: For the record :) By: Manualblock on Wed, 21 December 2005 19:42
		Re: For the record :) By: MWG on Wed, 21 December 2005 20:41
		Re: For the record :) By: Manualblock on Thu, 22 December 2005 09:57
		Re: For the record :) By: elektratig on Thu, 22 December 2005 12:48
		Re: For the record :) By: Manualblock on Fri, 23 December 2005 06:26
		Re: For the record :) By: Bob Brines on Thu, 22 December 2005 10:13
		Re: For the record :) By: Manualblock on Thu, 22 December 2005 11:19
		Re: For the record :) By: Bob Brines on Thu, 22 December 2005 14:18
		Re: For the record :) By: Manualblock on Thu, 22 December 2005 15:34
		Re: For the record :) By: Bob Brines on Thu, 22 December 2005 20:45
		Chet was the second coming nt By: Leland Crooks on Wed, 21 December 2005 05:28
		If you like Chet By: MWG on Wed, 21 December 2005 07:57
		Re: If you like Chet By: Leland Crooks on Wed, 21 December 2005 08:33
		Re: If you like Chet By: MWG on Wed, 21 December 2005 19:28
		Re: If you like Chet By: Leland Crooks on Wed, 21 December 2005 20:01
		Re: If you like Chet By: MWG on Wed, 21 December 2005 20:35
		Re: If you like Chet By: steve f on Fri, 23 December 2005 13:19
		Re: If you like Chet By: lelandcrooks on Fri, 23 December 2005 13:44
		Re: If you like Chet By: steve f on Fri, 23 December 2005 18:16
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