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Re: Very puzzling [message #15323 is a reply to message #15322]

Wed, 26 July 2006 21:37

Manualblock
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Good reply and food for thought. Swapping the same values out for better quality doesn't change anything so thats a wash.
So to address your comment on computor modeling I would ask why every speaker doesn't pretty much sound the same since the models would assume similar conditions to find the best solution for a given component choice.
Regarding DIY efforts; the first point that jumps out at me is that why would we need any proffessional speaker builders if we could just spend the money we give them on a couple programs and some measuring devices and create better stuff on our own. I don't dispute what you say; I just think it might be a little more involved than that. Designing to price points when you have economies of scale seems to also be a wash in regards to big companies VS DIY. So I guess the question becomes is there any pro speaker designers that actually best the home constructor who has some knowledge and access to a little gear for testing?
If the computor modeling works well it should mean the pros have no advantage other than access to larger inventories of parts to experiment with. What do you think?
In order to be candid I will say there are commercial speakers I am familiar with that I will say are worlds above the average homebuilt in quality and distinctive sound. But I haven't heard everything.
As an example I see the SD field where as I have expressed in the past I personally feel they sound astonishing;...on certain types of music. On other types they sound dead. Thats I think where we go with the homebuilt and designed computor modeled examples. They get certain things right; sometimes very right. But not everything. And that is what a commercial and well rounded speaker should be doing. So I am not so sure it is a price point so much as the requirement that the speaker play everything. IMO. Just an opinion; I would love to be proven wrong and be able to build my own gem of a loudspeaker; one that does most things well and some great.
Then again I always loved the Quad 57 so that kind of pin-points me in a way.

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		Very puzzling By: Manualblock on Wed, 26 July 2006 19:00
		Re: Very puzzling By: GarMan on Wed, 26 July 2006 19:35
		Re: Very puzzling By: Manualblock on Wed, 26 July 2006 21:37
		Re: OOO! OOO! I Know! By: wunhuanglo on Sat, 29 July 2006 09:56
		Re: OOO! OOO! I Know! By: Manualblock on Sat, 29 July 2006 10:38
		Re: OOO! OOO! I Know! By: wunhuanglo on Sun, 30 July 2006 08:59
		Re: OOO! OOO! I Know! By: Manualblock on Sun, 30 July 2006 18:20
		Re: OOO! OOO! I Know! By: Martin on Mon, 31 July 2006 12:51
		Re: I have to Ask By: Manualblock on Wed, 02 August 2006 08:07
		Re: I have to Ask By: Martin on Wed, 02 August 2006 17:40
		Perhaps I could add an analogy by way of clarification By: wunhuanglo on Wed, 02 August 2006 22:40
		Re:Whelp; you guys pretty much cleared that up for me. By: Manualblock on Thu, 03 August 2006 09:20
		Disagree By: colinhester on Thu, 03 August 2006 16:07
		Re: Disagree By: Martin on Thu, 03 August 2006 18:54
		Martin, I agree totally!!!! By: wunhuanglo on Fri, 04 August 2006 06:12
		That's funny By: colinhester on Fri, 04 August 2006 06:46
		Re: That's funny By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 04 August 2006 11:23
		Re: Say Wayne By: Manualblock on Fri, 04 August 2006 19:59
		Re: Well; I guess not. By: Manualblock on Sat, 05 August 2006 13:30
		A funny heat transfer story By: wunhuanglo on Fri, 04 August 2006 21:01
		If you could circulate it long enough, it would probably reach absolute zero By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 04 August 2006 22:33
		Thanks for cleaning up my mess, Wayne By: wunhuanglo on Sat, 05 August 2006 09:04
		No trouble By: Wayne Parham on Sat, 05 August 2006 13:59
		Re: Martin, I agree totally!!!! By: Martin on Fri, 04 August 2006 10:34
		Re: Martin, I agree totally!!!! By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 04 August 2006 13:07
		Another Anecdote By: wunhuanglo on Fri, 04 August 2006 20:46

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