Would you happen to know how much the new XXLS series 10" and 12" are? (in US$ I assume as you're in USA, Im in Australia). I cant find a price on 'em. Not sure about being derived from car speakers - there is also a car XLS line with much higher Fs, Qts etc so I imagine the XLS for home was aimed at home/HT as they describe... perhaps they were after small box size, maybe, and use EQ to boost up the bottom end a bit (what I did). I dont use it anymore though.... moved up to 18" ported sub.