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Re: Pull pin... [message #10993 is a reply to message #10986]

Tue, 15 February 2005 18:25

Manualblock
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I think both of your opening statements are mutually conclusive. By definition the trade-offs are addressed; why would anyone design an amp to not address them? The problem is I believe there is more to the story concerning distortion and perception. Read Hiraga's test results in last summers AudioeXpress. He does extensive abx testing isolating odd and even distortion levels in different amplifiers extending upwards of multiple distortion factors. As usual there is more to the story than one would expect from the usual 2nd and 3rd order explanations.

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		Pull pin... By: PakProtector on Mon, 14 February 2005 04:50
		Re: Pull pin... By: Manualblock on Mon, 14 February 2005 06:19
		nope... By: PakProtector on Mon, 14 February 2005 08:14
		Re: nope... By: Manualblock on Mon, 14 February 2005 09:34
		Re: nope... By: TC on Mon, 14 February 2005 10:24
		Re: nope... By: Manualblock on Mon, 14 February 2005 13:15
		sometimes.... By: PakProtector on Mon, 14 February 2005 14:33
		Re: sometimes.... By: Manualblock on Mon, 14 February 2005 18:07
		that's a good one... By: PakProtector on Mon, 14 February 2005 19:19
		Reference music? By: colinhester on Mon, 14 February 2005 20:36
		Re: Reference music? By: PakProtector on Mon, 14 February 2005 20:58
		Re: that's a good one... By: Manualblock on Tue, 15 February 2005 06:23
		Thoriated W By: PakProtector on Tue, 15 February 2005 06:49
		Re: Thoriated W By: Manualblock on Tue, 15 February 2005 10:11
		Re: Thoriated W By: PakProtector on Tue, 15 February 2005 12:35
		Re: Thoriated W By: Manualblock on Tue, 15 February 2005 15:46
		Re: Pull pin... By: akhilesh on Mon, 14 February 2005 09:17
		Re: Pull pin... By: TC on Mon, 14 February 2005 10:08
		Re: Pull pin... By: akhilesh on Mon, 14 February 2005 12:48
		Re: Pull pin... By: TC on Mon, 14 February 2005 13:42
		Re: Pull pin... By: akhilesh on Mon, 14 February 2005 13:50
		Re: Pull pin... By: Manualblock on Mon, 14 February 2005 14:24
		Re: Pull pin... By: akhilesh on Tue, 15 February 2005 07:34
		Re: Pull pin... By: Manualblock on Tue, 15 February 2005 18:25
		Changes in Output Z By: Steve on Sat, 18 June 2005 09:42
		No, absolutely not! By: PakProtector on Mon, 14 February 2005 14:40
		Re: No, absolutely not! By: TC on Mon, 14 February 2005 15:32
		Check this out By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 14 February 2005 17:46
		Still a bit of a generalization, but... By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 14 February 2005 14:01
		Re: Still a bit of a generalization, but... By: Damir on Mon, 14 February 2005 15:18
		Re: Still a bit of a generalization, but... By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 14 February 2005 16:10
		Re: Still a bit of a generalization, but... By: Manualblock on Mon, 14 February 2005 17:59
		"Budget" SET By: Damir on Tue, 15 February 2005 12:44
		Re: "Budget" SET By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 15 February 2005 15:25
		"Budget" SET=Milatary Intelligence By: PakProtector on Tue, 15 February 2005 18:01
		Re: "Budget" SET=Military Intelligence By: Wayne Parham on Tue, 15 February 2005 22:03
		Re: Still a bit of a generalization, but... By: John Chleapas on Mon, 14 February 2005 23:22
		Re: Still a bit of a generalization, but... By: Wayne Parham on Mon, 14 February 2005 23:42
		Re: Pull pin... By: DRCope on Mon, 21 February 2005 13:44
		Re: Pull pin... By: akhilesh on Mon, 21 February 2005 15:03
		Is Fat a compliment, etc . . . . By: DRCope on Wed, 23 February 2005 17:51
		Also By: akhilesh on Mon, 21 February 2005 15:17
		Re: Also By: DRCope on Wed, 23 February 2005 17:55
		Re: Also By: akhilesh on Thu, 24 February 2005 10:13
		Re: Also By: DRCope on Thu, 24 February 2005 14:42
		con permisso By: PakProtector on Fri, 25 February 2005 05:47
		Re: con permisso By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 25 February 2005 09:23
		Re: Also By: akhilesh on Fri, 25 February 2005 08:18
		Re: Also By: DRCope on Fri, 25 February 2005 09:20
		Re: Also By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 25 February 2005 09:28
		Re: Also By: DRCope on Fri, 25 February 2005 10:33
		Re: Also By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 25 February 2005 11:21
		Re: Also By: DRCope on Fri, 25 February 2005 11:57
		Re: Also By: akhilesh on Fri, 25 February 2005 12:26
		Re: Also By: Wayne Parham on Fri, 25 February 2005 09:14
		Re: Also By: DRCope on Fri, 25 February 2005 10:44
		Re: Also By: Steve on Sun, 15 May 2005 12:25
		Hence the discussion... By: PakProtector on Tue, 22 February 2005 15:18
		Re: Pull pin... By: Steve on Tue, 17 May 2005 10:48
		Here is a good link by a SET amp builder, scroll to the bottom By: akhilesh on Thu, 24 February 2005 13:05
		A topology too far....... By: TC on Mon, 14 February 2005 11:54
		Good question By: colinhester on Mon, 14 February 2005 15:10
		Re: Good question By: Manualblock on Mon, 14 February 2005 17:58
		Re: Push/Pull pin... By: ChrisL on Wed, 16 February 2005 09:26
		expansions By: PakProtector on Wed, 16 February 2005 10:09
		Re: expansions By: ChrisL on Wed, 16 February 2005 12:44
		Nice! By: Wayne Parham on Wed, 16 February 2005 18:45
		Re: Push/Pull pin... By: akhilesh on Thu, 17 February 2005 08:57
		Re: Pull pin... By: Matts_ on Mon, 08 August 2005 22:44
		now just wait a sec.... By: Thrint on Tue, 09 August 2005 10:01
		Re: now just wait a sec.... By: Matts_ on Tue, 09 August 2005 19:21

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