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TAD KT88 [message #98750] Thu, 03 July 2025 22:06 Go to next message
positron is currently offline  positron
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Has anyone heard or have info concerning the TAD KT88? German manufactured or just tested for specs?

Cheers

pos
Re: TAD KT88 [message #98759 is a reply to message #98750] Sun, 06 July 2025 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Pos, no but their preamp tubes (7025) are rather nice.

Good Listening
Bruce
Re: TAD KT88 [message #98763 is a reply to message #98759] Tue, 08 July 2025 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just found 2 sites that says TAD is sourced in China. No go
for me, at least for now.

I wish there was some place besides russia, china, and slovakia.
Sophia might be one, but expensive tubes.

cheers
pos
Re: TAD KT88 [message #98770 is a reply to message #98763] Wed, 16 July 2025 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Got to audition a used pair of reissue Mullard KT88s and I think I will
order some new and compare to the reissue Tung Sol 6550s.

We may have a superior tube.

pos
Re: TAD KT88 [message #98772 is a reply to message #98770] Wed, 16 July 2025 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh wow, let me know what you think!  I may have to buy a pair and check 'em out for myself!

I have a pair of original Tung Sol 6550 tubes.  Not NOS 'cause I use 'em from time to time.  But I treat them like they are precious family China.  Not for use every day.  Not even for every Christmas.  Only for Christmas' when royalty visits.  LOL!

And I have a bunch of Mullard 12AX7 tubes, which I have found that I like a lot.  So I'd be happy to try Mullard KT88s.  Not sure how I missed those before now.  Somehow, I looked right passed 'em, I guess.
Re: TAD KT88 [message #98778 is a reply to message #98772] Thu, 17 July 2025 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne Parham wrote on Wed, 16 July 2025 17:11

Oh wow, let me know what you think!  I may have to buy a pair and check 'em out for myself!

I have a pair of original Tung Sol 6550 tubes.  Not NOS 'cause I use 'em from time to time.  But I treat them like they are precious family China.  Not for use every day.  Not even for every Christmas.  Only for Christmas' when royalty visits.  LOL!

And I have a bunch of Mullard 12AX7 tubes, which I have found that I like a lot.  So I'd be happy to try Mullard KT88s.  Not sure how I missed those before now.  Somehow, I looked right passed 'em, I guess.
Will do Wayne. A friend had a used pair of 6 year old reissue Mullard KT88s
and they do spark my interest. Auditioned and the bass was less but tight,
maybe too tight, but then the M pair are somewhat used.

I can always tweak my monoblocks to increase bass (accuracy/naturalness)
if the new ones are a little light.

The 1,000 hour reissue Tung Sol 6550s had the same idle cathode current as
the other quad new TS in the boxes, was impressed, but then one of the used
TS started arcing with only ~440 p to k volts, 70 ma.

Besides that the TS side getters were pretty much used up, while the used
M had virtually no side getter deterioration.  

Will be a little time to test, get some hours, but will report back Wayne.

cheers
pos

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Re: TAD KT88 [message #98780 is a reply to message #98778] Fri, 18 July 2025 07:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very cool, thanks!
Re: TAD KT88 [message #98792 is a reply to message #98780] Sun, 27 July 2025 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wayne Parham wrote on Fri, 18 July 2025 07:59

Very cool, thanks!
Your welcome Wayne.

Well, I have received and some 17 hours on the quad, matched
by TubeDepot located in Memphis. I measured the idle current
and found that the 4 tubes were matched to within 1ma difference.
Actually 0,75ma. (I am not affiliated in any way with TubeDepot.)

Wayne, it is difficult to describe the sonic change due to
dealing with realism, live sound.

The new Mullard KT88s were clearly superior to the new TS 6550s
and other output tubes I have tried, in just about every respect.
I had a disappearing system for decades, then realism some couple
of decades, one could be satisfied with,, until,,
one auditioned more real, live. I think we all do that in our
systems. That presents a question.

When is one bumping against the recording
quality vs how much is lack of playback quality.

Poor quality parts, especially electrolytic capacitors cause masking
problems. Friends over verified what I was perceiving.

Don't mean to sound conceited, but friends and I perceive 1 part
in 4 million consistently. This is the result of using
accurate polypropylene decoupling capacitors from dac, phono stage srouces,
through to speaker crossover. Had no idea it would come to this
when starting back in 1980.

Friends and I can bypass a 47ufd Mundorf with a 12pf in the speaker
crossover and way too bright. I am currently using a series notch filter,
6.5khz across the full range driver. In series with the CL filter am using
a 3.3 megohm resistor, 3 meg sounds too full and 4 megs sounds too lean.

The Mullard produce Cleaner sounding, crisper/attacks, more natural bass,
venue is more realistic, spaciousness increased.  

With the above said, typical systems with electrolytic capacitors may not
notice that much difference, between the reissue Tung Sol 6550s and
reissue Mullard KT88s. It will depend upon the system.

The new Mullard KT88s are now the standard for me.

If one gets a chance, a good read is a 2 part article
"Picking Capacitors" by Walter Jung and Richard Marsh.

I hope I have not come across as arrogant. The info is the
result of decades of lab work/research.

Cheers

pos
Re: TAD KT88 [message #98793 is a reply to message #98792] Mon, 28 July 2025 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Thanks for the review on the Mullard KT88 tubes!  I think I'll get a pair and give 'em a listen!
Re: TAD KT88, Mullard [message #98794 is a reply to message #98793] Mon, 28 July 2025 18:59 Go to previous message
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Wayne Parham wrote on Mon, 28 July 2025 08:43

Thanks for the review on the Mullard KT88 tubes!  I think I'll get a pair and give 'em a listen!
Before you do Wayne, I just compared the new Mullards to the
Winged C KT88s for a more complete review.

I like the Mullards better.

The WC KT88s are softer sounding, which is probably better for many.

The Mullard KT88s have a cleaner, sharper leading edge, midrange that is
not as soft sounding, and has taught bass compared to other tubes, so
conducive toward live sound,

but, if one does not use large enough coupling and decoupling capacitors
in their preamps and amps, the sound may, probably will, sound lean,
appearing to lack bottom end.

I use 2uf coupling caps in my 2 stage monoblocks and 6ufd output caps
set with 22k ohm impedance (including amp's input impedence (Z)
as my output capacitors in my preamplifier as an initial reference point
to see how I dealt with the lower frequencies.
Of course the decoupling capacitors affect the low frequency
response as well.

Cheers

pos
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