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Re: Empire [message #98725 is a reply to message #98724] Tue, 24 June 2025 11:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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No.

I've watched the middle-east conflicts through my lifetime and thought of it as a sad war between fanatic moslems and Israel.  I don't think it's the common people that are to blame - I think it's the politicians and fanatics driving that perpetual conflict.  Jews, Christans and Moslems should consider themselves like-minded, but the mentally sick ones don't and they cause strife.  Other than that, I don't have an opinion on events in the middle east.

But I do have my finger on the pulse of the conflict in Ukraine and it is caused solely by Putin.  It isn't the west.  You may say America and Europe had fingers in stuff in other parts of the world, but not there.  We should have, in my opinion, but we didn't.  At least not 'til now, and we're a little late.

That's just how it is, my friend.

Let me give you just one of a million examples.  Back in the late 1990s, I considered buying a Volga and having it shipped here.  I wanted to put a blown big block in it and wrinkle-wall back tires.  Paint it black and put the words, "Механическая Перегрузка" on the back.  That means "mechanical overload" and I just thought it would be really cool.

Well, days passed and I didn't get around to doing that.  I spent my hot-rod dollars on my Cutlass and eventually bought an Impala.  But I never stopped thinkin' about the Volga...

Then later I learned that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton tried to smooth-over relations with the Russians with a "Russian Reset" campaign.  I don't suppose it's ever a bad thing to improve relations with anyone, but my point is that American political attention to Russia and Ukraine is so abysmally slight that we didn't even take the time to pay a translator a hundred bucks to make sure we got the word right.

We gave the Russian Foreign Minister a cute little Staples-like-that-was-easy button with what we thought was the word for reset - "перезагрузка" - but instead, we labeled the button "перегрузка" - overload.

Caught my eye 'cause of my fun Volga phrase.  Still think that would have been cool on a funny car based on a Volga.

Point is, we ain't into it here.  We don't have a clue what's going on there.  Not at the everyman level and not even at the highest political levels.  It's not a sinister plot.  It's a comedy of errors.

Odessa, at the top of the Potemkin stairs, right by the statue of Duke de Richelieu (in a jacket, just for fun):

https://audioroundtable.com/images/Odessa_2021.jpg
 
Re: Empire [message #98726 is a reply to message #98725] Tue, 24 June 2025 15:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty
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I guess you can buy one of those vintage Volga's if you're willing to pay import taxes. I'd be interested in the Ladas's SUV's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=TebnQUnZkks

I know we can't reconcile our differences about Ukraine, Putin and such. I respect your views but I don't believe them. It's too big a scale of human issues to be understood by the involvement by means of friends and travel to understand the nuances causing what has unfortunately transpired.

It's taken me over 60 years of life in this country to be able to grasp some of what is causing world affairs. And as I've pointed out early on. I've done a 180 on how I've come to view that war and how it came about. Through my personal investigations.

I've come to realize that our country, unfortunately is the source of a great deal of the strife in the world. I think some very learned, sincere and growing group of people are bringing this out by alternative media. I'm grateful its available as such and hope it becomes more mainstream.

Here's a couple of links that show there is some dissent in Ukraine with the leadership brought forth by a Ukrainian political scientist in a book published recently.
https://the307.substack.com/p/ukrainian-political-scientist-exposes
And an interesting blog called Events in Ukraine about Zelensky's youth and post Soviet society.
https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/p/portrait-of-the-joker-as-a-young

The Middle East is a disaster by the United States own selfish making. Principally from the creation of Israel. And our petrodollar fetish. All very ugly and all our doings exclusively.


Re: Empire [message #98727 is a reply to message #98726] Tue, 24 June 2025 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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When I was over there, I bought pistons and other car parts for a Lada.  Kinda just wanted to show my American hotrod buddies what the Russkis were dealing with.

The Volga would have just looked cool being tubbed.

Here's the deal:  I was over there way back, not long after the wall fell.  I wondered back then why we weren't more involved, and kinda thought probably there were higher-level diplomats and negotiations between politicians and other things I didn't understand.  I thought that the evolution of time would prove that.

Decades have passed since then.  I've watched the Russians and other former-Soviet states since long before most other Americans cared.  And what I saw proved to me that I was wrong about any sort of higher-level anything.  Our highest levels literally couldn't even spell.

So you and I agree on one thing - incompetence and misjudgment.  What we don't agree with are the responsible parties.  You somehow have given Putin a pass on this and I do not.  I personally know people that have died there, and I know who is responsible for their deaths:  Владимир Владимирович Путин

But the brave men and women of Ukraine seem to be doing pretty well keeping Putin's war dogs at bay.

Losh and others like him in Ukraine are ready for Putin's murdering slaves:

https://audioroundtable.com/images/Aloshinka_gotova.jpg
Алёшинка готова
Re: Empire [message #98728 is a reply to message #98727] Wed, 25 June 2025 09:16 Go to previous message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty
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I'm sorry for all the Ukraine's too. They wanted independence from Mother Russia. They got it. But they've also had a long involved history being part of it. Unfortunately they've also been a pawn in this unnecessary dispute. That you can discount and disregard the same as they are bravely holding off the hoards of the Russian enemy. Grinding down their military capability slowly and surely.

But that's a delusion the same as what Europe is doing as far as "re-arming" of NATO by decree by the United States to spend 5% of their GDP on this military boondoggle. Europe's economy, especially Germany is recessional now. That cheap Russian natural gas was eliminated by old Joe, who got this whole shebang going in earnest. So, like here in the US, a military industrial complex is useful to prop up an economy that can't be competitive in the world market with manufacturing due to the cost of living.

Austerity will ensue in Europe as it has in the US. Social services will be cut as in the US.

I just think you deny the responsibility of the big picture to make things fit with your experiences over there. Useful absolutely for getting to know the culture. But inadequate to assess the geopolitical implications that go on between governments.

I'm not letting anyone off the hook. I've just been putting the pieces of the puzzle together with the help and knowledge of learned people that have a grasp of that big picture.

And brother, the blame sure tilts our way. Just as it has in the Middle East, and Latin America and South America with our overt meddling. Sorry, but that is the reality.

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