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Re: Empire [message #98622 is a reply to message #98601]

Sat, 24 May 2025 08:59

Rusty
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Registered: May 2018
Location: Kansas City Missouri

Illuminati (3rd Degree)

You have to have some historical underpinnings to understand the present time. Our country and Great Britain whom we are primarily derived from in our cultural and capitalist ties, have been opposed to the notion of Communism and Socialism since the Russian revolution.

After WWII the Soviet Union, our ally and a Communist oriented nation that gave more than any other nation in the effort to rid Nazi fascism was summarily and perversely made into a foe. The United States with Great Britain that we subordinated along with the rest of Europe and essentially the world then from our new found aspirations of arbiter of world affairs. The United States unscathed from the war, rich with abundance and calling the shots.

There was though an overhang from war production and a recession creeped in in 1947. The principal war industries and particularly the aerospace industries were in a downturn. With the help of the deep state overworld corporate wealth and the authority of the security pillar of the defense department, the legislative and executive end of the government became as one with forming the CIA agency, International Monetary Fund and other security and financial aligned agencies to prevail in world dominance.

The need was a scapegoat to arouse public fear of a potential threat to our society. That became the origins of the cold war with the Soviet Union mainly and China superficially. More so when they developed their own nuclear capability. It was the threat of Communism towards Capitalism. Evil authoritarianism vs benevolent democratic freedom.

NATO was formed in 1949 as a deterrent in Europe from the planned perception of the Communist USSR being a threat. It coincided with the build up of the military complex in the United States. An answer to the floundering defense industries of the post war.
The USSR didn't respond to this until 1955 with the Warsaw Pact. They had been after all a country devastated by the world war. Having lost millions and millions of people in their effort for freedom from the tyranny of fascism.

The economic sympathies towards Communism and Socialism that was prevalent in the US in the depression years and helped spur the Roosevelt government towards progressive socialism with the formation of Social Security and government subsidization in the industrial sectors was by the 1950's being dismantled by the forces of the deep state. McCarthyism was the neoconservative way of demonizing the prewar Communist, Socialist sympathies out of existence.

The now perpetual war machine economy of the military complex was entrenched. The Korean war was the beginning of our military adventurism to come. Fighting Communism with the virtue of Democratic Capitalism.

The deep state structure within our government has gradually grown more powerful and authoritarian over the decades. And our economic structure has followed suit becoming more financialized by design. Allowing our non war industry to wither and die domestically following the path of globalization to bolster the financial profitability of the growing wealthy end of our society. The military complex was utilized towards the blunt end of our security pillar of the deep state along with the financial overworld pillar to keep our world dollar hegemony to our advantage.

Eventually our ability to make war with our military service has become a strain for the public to accept. So a proxy method has served our security end by suppling forces with our military material to do our bidding in our strategic meddling. Our military budget though has mushroomed over the decades to be a drain on our already vast national debt. Mainly from our trade imbalances.

We're at a compromising point now economically that is influencing the authoritarian part of the deep state to be reflected in our political end more than ever. Our advantages internationally have also been compromised by overextending our financial restraints on countries we tried to control through sanctioning and now through tariffs.

Our deep state is showing its negative effects in the world that has coalized by responding with a firm ability to counter our dominance as it has never had the ability before. Its high time. I hope they prevail. We need a revolution in this country to end this negativity. I hope its bloodless. The deep state has shed enough of that over the years, mainly abroad. Lets hope it doesn't turn inward on ourselves.

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