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Day One [message #98413] Sat, 05 April 2025 16:53 Go to next message
gofar99 is currently offline  gofar99
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Hi Everyone.  It is too bad individuals can't be sued for day one promises that were not kept.  Instead of a fix, things have been made worse.  I was unaware that day one was now expected to take two years to accomplish.

Good Listening
Bruce
Re: Day One [message #98414 is a reply to message #98413] Sat, 05 April 2025 20:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Please explain.  I'm not getting your inference.
Re: Day One [message #98415 is a reply to message #98414] Sat, 05 April 2025 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gofar99 is currently offline  gofar99
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Hi Wayne sure.  It seems that the President made a number of day one promises in order to get voters on his side. Fix inflation and the economy is one and it was going to get better on day one.  It didn't and now by most accounts it is  worse.  Today it was mentioned on the news and web that he figured it would take two years to fix the manufacturing lack.  It would be key to making things better for the economy (perhaps I agree that it might) but it is hardly on day one.  Too bad there is no real recourse at this time  to do anything about such broken promises.  I am sure that many folks are chagrin with the way things are going.  Politicians often make promises, but in all the time I have been around I have not seen anything like what is happening now.  I agree that changes were (are) needed, but I don't see the present direction as being the best way. Other folks may see things in a different light and they certainly are entitled to so, that is the way the system is supposed to work.  I personally see our democracy being eroded  before our very eyes.  

Good Listening
Bruce
Re: Day One [message #98416 is a reply to message #98415] Sun, 06 April 2025 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Oh, yes.  Got it.

I am hopeful that the negotiations of increased tariffs will work.  It always sounded like a good idea to me and seems like we should have equalized tariffs decades ago.  So I have guarded optimism.

Only time will tell.

I must admit, though, that I am concerned with how the rest of the world views the United States today.  And I am particularly concerned with our stance towards Russia.

Fingers crossed about it all.
Re: Day One [message #98417 is a reply to message #98416] Sun, 06 April 2025 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty
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Your local dungeon dweller here. Our country is facing a reckoning with what our neoliberal finance capitalism has wrought for us over the years. It traded the tried and true industrial capitalism that government subsidizes to keep the cost of living low for now our finance capitalism that spawned globalism. Leading to privatization and monopolization like a parasite on the public and chasing the Wall St. unearned income route.

Our exorbitant dollar advantage with trade further corrupted our trade spending on credit with countries we incentivized to build up their manufacturing and industry. Trading with IOU bonds and a trade deficit now that is enormous. So Trump wants to decrease that deficit essentially on the backs of we the people. We pay for higher tariffs. Not the country its leveled at. His indiscriminate trade war with the world can be an incentive to further just not DEAL with our crazy selves. Eschewing our large market. They can trade amongst themselves more so than we can with what few countries we haven't pissed off. They have things to trade with. They became self reliant. We aren't now. We're our own worst enemy.

What foreign entity will want to bring their manufacturing here on the pretense of low taxes with an administration that changes their minds every half hour? Not to mention the time it takes to accomplish that and the investment commitment.

Tariffs only are effective for targeted industries to become competitive over time and investment with world trade. Not a friggin carte blanche trade war! With everyone!
Some say Trump will make "deals" with countries to mitigate the tariffs. What ever. Its just more chaos added on in the world as is with our national security debacles have been. That we spend trillions on.

Where's Musk to put his efficiency wizard wand on that?
Re: Day One [message #98418 is a reply to message #98417] Sun, 06 April 2025 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Try to overcome your faith and denial in reality with whatever ideology cobbled together over the years. Our press and media is so shallow to the complexity of our empire management system. They merely go with the flow. They don't ask hard questions to the politicians. They don't ferret out the contradictions that always arise.

These fellows do. And they go for the logic that media and politics have no clue. At least as has been pointed out by non mainstream good journalism, is that Donald Trump is not a politician. He's crude, rude, obtuse and a pathological liar. But he doesn't mind showing to all the deformities of the empire for what it is. A fraud.

So commit a little time letting your guard down to contemplating some reasoning that isn't maybe what you're accustomed to. Maybe it'll sink in, maybe not. But for me at least its more tangible and real than the puppet show on tv or reading mass media.

https://michael-hudson.com/2025/04/can-the-world-unite-against-u-s-trade-weaponization/
Re: Day One [message #98419 is a reply to message #98418] Sun, 06 April 2025 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gofar99 is currently offline  gofar99
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+2 on that. I also have serious concerns about revoking visas and potential mass deportations.  After they are all gone will we need to carry ID at all times too.  I wonder what percentage of Americans can prove they really are Americans.  

Good Listening
Bruce
Re: Day One [message #98422 is a reply to message #98419] Mon, 07 April 2025 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty
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So far Trump's 2nd term is eerily similar to 1930's Germany. And his core group of oligarchs, particularly Musk are chillingly fascist.
The empire is teetering.  
Re: Day One [message #98427 is a reply to message #98422] Tue, 08 April 2025 07:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty
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This administration is led by people that do not know the concept of planning and incremental goals towards realizing higher standards of living. They're people of wealth made mainly by finance reaping unearned income from it. As the Scottish economist of the 18th century Adam Smith coined the term for economic rent, "making income in their sleep".

And the head of this administration particularly feels his overbearing egotism and threats work wonders at speeding up unrealistic goals.

China did not become the leader of REAL GDP by pushing countries around this way. They worked methodically with planning and trying out methods which if not applicable were replaced with ones that were better. But it obviously is a successful methodology. However our short term thinking empire management system scoffs at that. Holding onto their cold war mentality and inflexibility to realize another economic system may be superior to what ours has become.

Socialism and Communism was an economic concept prominent in the US from the early part of the 20th century. Making gains in Unionization and from Roosevelts administration the socialism of Social Security for the benefit of older adults. The most popular program ever in this nations history.

But post WWII the forces of Laissez-faire coalesced to undermine the Communist and Socialist parties of this country. McCarthyism was used to root out and demonize these concepts as un-American. Over the decades more and more methods and planning was evolved into what there is today in our financialized neoliberal concept of economics.

All this took time and planning. It can be argued its success was phenomenal. For the top 10% of our population. Particularly the top 1%. But at the expense and erosion of the middle class comprising the 90% of the population.

Our current office holders have embarked on a bombastic fraud in trying to bully our way into becoming an economic manufacturing leader again. The antithesis of neoliberal finance short term thinking. It really shows to the world, the abject falsehood of our perceived exceptionalism concept. Its rotten to the core. And now on full display worldwide. It's pitiful.
Re: Day One [message #98431 is a reply to message #98427] Wed, 09 April 2025 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Rusty is currently offline  Rusty
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The sheer arrogance of where the Trump administration is coming from is wonderfully documented by Ben Norton's Geopolitical Economic Report.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnajhDMAWVA

Like a mafia shakedown to the world to perpetuate the US empire by paying homage to the US dollar and our military complex.
Backed and financed by our billionaire think tank philosophy of American exceptionalism.

China says: Bring it on.
I think this explains things for us better than any other means of communication.
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