Norm (and Doug) got kits (and other parts in Norm's case) from me to redo their Citation IIs. BTW, Norm and I correspond all the time, he has a couple "spare" Cit II amps besides his 8 amp setup. The 8 amps produce 480 watts per channel with peaks of over 800 watts/side.

It really is a special amp after the kit(s) installation. According to the guys who borrowed one from us to use last week in Vegas it was the best amp on the premises.

You'd be amazed at the number of well known audio gear designers who are closet Citation freaks!

On the Cit IV - if you don't use tone controls and are using the line stage you have a simple 1 tube per channel line amp. One 12AX7 per channel is all that's active. The IV can be improved a lot with power supply upgrades (as can the Cit I), it's a b*tch to work on though.

If you'd like to see some pics or get an idea how far into the Citation tube gear I am take a look over on my site. There's even a scan of the 1961 sales brocure if you are interested - check the prices!

I'll try to stop by here accasionally and if anyone has any Citation questions I'll be happy to help if I can. Thanks to Russ for turning me on to this forum.

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