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A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #914] Fri, 01 October 2004 10:12 Go to next message
wunhuanglo is currently offline  wunhuanglo
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I’m posting here rather than the Dungeon because this is, in my mind, related to audio.

BTW, anybody else notice the foul odor over in the Dungeon forum lately?

Anyway, my conclusion, right or wrong, is that most ART participants are comfortably middle class and predominantly American citizens. As such I assume that they are reasonably well educated and have enough leisure time to read a newspaper or watch a news program, however irregularly. I assume, then, that ART posters are generally politcally aware.

If the forgoing is true, I wonder why no one here has broached the subject of electoral politics? – not very much else has been off limits.

The reason for my curiosity is that the US electorate is supposed to be so politically divided, so passionately opinionated this year concerning the presidential elections.

Does the fact that ART participants don’t mention politics put the lie to the popular myth? Are people really not that interested?

Do people interested in audio shun other things? Lack an interest in current events & politics?

Is everybody looking for a place to get away from politics, and consequently avoid the subject on ART?

I am politically passionate, and I’m very curious what others think about this


Re: A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #918 is a reply to message #914] Fri, 01 October 2004 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill Wassilak is currently offline  Bill Wassilak
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Hell ya, were to busy doing audio rather than listen to politicians bitch about what each others doing wrong. I already know who I'm voteing for in Nov.


Re: A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #919 is a reply to message #914] Fri, 01 October 2004 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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Good point W. My opinion. The extreme divisiveness fostered by the disengenousness of the leaders in power has made political discussion nasty, lacking in substance and basically irrelevant since so many minds are already made up and have been made up from day one. Sad, I cannot even express any reasonable approach to understanding the political climate to my kids due to attrocious levels of spin and fakery. Our political climate is degenerating into that of a banana republic. And the media owned by friends of those in power refuse to even attempt to due their job as the fourth estate. We'll see in Nov. Maybe the electorate will come to their senses.


Re: A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #923 is a reply to message #914] Sat, 02 October 2004 01:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lon is currently offline  lon
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Lots of broad generalizations here. Don't assume everybody
is middle class, in the professions, in the business (of
audio building for profit,) married, white etc. etc. or anything
else maybe especially male. It's bad for the group and
exclusionary.

I got politically motivated because of Abu Ghraib and have been
since. While I always vote, I felt shamed by what I saw.


So I take double offense when I see remarks on here about
what we should do to those so and so's blah blah and blah.


Recent books on my reading table:

What's The matter With Kansas? by Thomas Frank
Moral Politics George Lakoff
Banana Republicans Rampton and Stauber

Audioroundtable is on my Bookmarks toolbar next to Democracy Now!
streaming weblink from Pacifica radio.

Re: A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #924 is a reply to message #914] Sat, 02 October 2004 02:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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I find it's no good talking politics, religion or other belief systems unless I can break bread with the person I'm talking with. I have to be face to face, and we have to be friends to get anywhere. In that spirit, we're either like minded and agreeing with each other, or if we differ, there's respect and a chance to learn from one another.

So I think you and I could probably get along just fine on that basis. In fact, I know we could. We've known each other for years and had many similar talks. I think that's true of many of the regulars here. But the anonymous public that's reading this thread probably isn't going to get along and respect one another.

That said, see my comments in the paragraph just below the photo of the Glass Mountains here.

Dungeons always stink ! [message #926 is a reply to message #914] Sun, 03 October 2004 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike.e is currently offline  Mike.e
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I would like to be political,but i cant decide between the parties..its all such games and power- so i ignore it and only discuss it with people face to face.I dont see clearcut goodness or truth,i just see a big muddle with no clear conclusion.

Cheers!

Re: A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #927 is a reply to message #914] Sun, 03 October 2004 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Manualblock is currently offline  Manualblock
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So Wun; you asked for opinions; now lets hear what you think.

Re: A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #928 is a reply to message #927] Sun, 03 October 2004 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wunhuanglo is currently offline  wunhuanglo
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I think, as Wayne said, it's probably non-productive to debate politics in one or two sentences on a user's board. ART participants probably recognize the wisdom of leaving politics to another sphere outside of ART.

Re: A Semi-Audio-Related Question [message #944 is a reply to message #914] Fri, 08 October 2004 03:44 Go to previous message
HighwaysandByways is currently offline  HighwaysandByways
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It's all about relevancy of the board's primary interest.

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