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Proud Papa Syndrome (Check out my new amp...) [message #8769] Sun, 30 January 2005 08:42 Go to next message
TubeCraft is currently offline  TubeCraft
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Baron

Hi there all,

I just finished my new PP 6B4 amp. It uses the ST70 transformer set on a prototype stainless chassis, with brass and stainless hardware. I doesn't mean much, when I say that it's best thing I ever heard, because I haven't heard a lot of good amps, but I have experienced (and participated in as a sound technician) a lot of live music and theatre over the years. It has an incredibly rich tone with a lot of interior subtlety.

The circuit is a 6S4 cascaded into a 7044, driving a Hammond 124E IT in a parafeed config. I basically copied the topology of the WE86A. I call it the Franklin 15.

This was taken before the amp was wired. Now it's a thing of beauty with all the tubes lit up at night.

TC


Re: Proud Papa Syndrome (Check out my new amp...) [message #8770 is a reply to message #8769] Sun, 30 January 2005 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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Oh, man, that's excellent! I'd love to hear your creation; Thanks for posting the photo.

Re: Proud Papa Syndrome (Check out my new amp...) [message #8771 is a reply to message #8769] Sun, 30 January 2005 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looks to be about as good as it gets. Can you tell me exactly what the dimensions of the top plate are. And in the schematic it calls for 5687 driving the IT but you don't mention that tube in your description. What speakers are you driving with this amp and which taps off the opt's, 8ohm? She's a beauty.

Re: Proud Papa Syndrome (Check out my new amp...) [message #8773 is a reply to message #8771] Sun, 30 January 2005 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baron
She'll take a 5687 or a 7044 or a 6900 (should you be lucky enough to have any of those), they're similar enough to work in that spot.
It'll take most any 5v rectifier that can deliver the current. 5u4 or 5AR4 or GZ37. At the moment, the B+ is right for NOS 6B4s - when I run the Sovteks I can crank up the B+. It's also easily converted to fixed bias for up to 15wpc. It's 7wpc currently.

The chassis is 10x17. The largest that would fit in my cheapo cabinet.

Speakers are old Klipsch Heresys circa 1977 - still alnico magnets then - at least on the mids and tweeters. (They're slightly modified.) Driven from the 8 ohm tap.

TC


Re: Proud Papa Syndrome (Check out my new amp...) [message #8775 is a reply to message #8773] Sun, 30 January 2005 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice combo; I used Forte's for years and still think they sound good. If I may, what decided you on 6B4?

Niiiice! [message #8778 is a reply to message #8769] Sun, 30 January 2005 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey-Hey!!!,
that is the first mention I have heard of the 6S4 in a bit. Nice looking chassis. I would try some small motor run oilers instead of the Solen caps. My experience has not been positive with the dry metalized solens( except when I have taken them out! ).

I'd love to hear it.
regards,
Douglas

Re: Proud Papa Syndrome (Check out my new amp...) [message #8779 is a reply to message #8775] Sun, 30 January 2005 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baron
Triode performance. Availability. Price. Pin-out compatability with an incredible range of power tubes. I like to experiment. Beautiful NOS examples still available for reasonable prices.

TC



Re: Niiiice! [message #8780 is a reply to message #8778] Sun, 30 January 2005 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Baron
Yeah, I'll be replacing the solens in various positions as time goes by and as I collect more motor-run caps and Vitamin Q's. The chassis is a bit small to go as wild in this direction as I want to.

I'm not as impressed with the Cerafines as I had hoped - perhaps they need to breakin longer...

I'm getting some Angela tin foil caps to try. My budget is a bit limited for the more exotic types. The world needs a good $10 1uf 600v Teflon cap.

Alternately, I'm going to obtain some some input transformers and go the completely balanced route - that'll get a few caps out of the chain.

I like the 6S4s - they're pretty NOS black plate Tung-Sols - NJs finest...

here's my 'in-progress' [message #8783 is a reply to message #8780] Sun, 30 January 2005 17:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's my new linestage. 12B4A amplifier valve and 12BY7A active loads behind their respective 12B4. It's waiting on acquisition of the four RCA jacks and a few yards of under-hood wiring.

DC filament supplies, all L-C single stages with a lot of capacitance. Still need to tune the filter voltages.

I considered the 6S4 but don't need all that much gain. I am also fairly comfortable with using the 12B4.
regards,
Douglas


Re: she's a beauty! [message #8789 is a reply to message #8783] Mon, 31 January 2005 05:30 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Baron
Very nice! Is it two 12BY7s per channel in the active loads?

I did up a 12B4 linestage last year with a couple of Freed line transformers that I scored from Angela years ago. Ya' gotta love the 12B4 - when you can find 'em that aren't microphonic!

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