Tubey Amps? [message #8490] |
Fri, 01 October 2004 14:04 ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
GarMan
Messages: 960 Registered: May 2009
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Do they still make tubey sounding tube amps? It seems that the trend these days is towards amps that are clean, transparent and distortion free. But what if I want the "tube" sound? What amps or designs would give me a healthy dose of even-order hamonics and that "bloom" that only tubes can give?
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Try these.... [message #8496 is a reply to message #8490] |
Sat, 02 October 2004 10:21 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
Scott F.
Messages: 8 Registered: May 2009
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You're right. Very few manufacturers are making warm sounding gear today. It seems the trend is to make everything forward sounding. Mike at Jolida designs his amps to 'tame' the forward sounding speakers we all find on todays market. His transformer designs are excellent. Wide ultra-bandwidth with minimal saturation (Mike is actually a metalurgist speciallizing in transformer design by trade). Mike has hand chosen parts that give his amps a warmer presentation. You won't find any boutique parts inside. Another warm sounding pre that I've run across is the MAD (Mapletree Audio Design) Ultra 4M. The original design (not the updated version) was a very warm preamp. Mated to a detailed piece of gear, this preamp does a nice job of 'taming' the sound. Heres a couple of links to article I wrote about both pieces of gear. Jolida JD1000 http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/1004/joeaudiophile2.htm MAD Ultra 4M http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/mad4multra_e.html (sorry, I tried to embed the links but it didn't work. you'll have to copy and paste then into your browser) These sound like what you may be looking for. Regards Scott F.
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Re: Try these.... [message #8497 is a reply to message #8496] |
Sat, 02 October 2004 10:39 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18756 Registered: January 2001
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To make clickable links, type this: <a href="http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/viewpoint/1004/joeaudiophile2.htm">Jolida JD1000</a> -and- <a href="http://www.tnt-audio.com/ampli/mad4multra_e.html">MAD Ultra 4M</a> When you type the text above, it will display like this in your post: Jolida JD1000 -and- MAD Ultra 4M This is HTML. It is not very "user friendly," but the upside is you can put anything you want in your posts. Links, images, tables, whatever.
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Re: Try these.... [message #8498 is a reply to message #8497] |
Sat, 02 October 2004 12:04 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
Scott F.
Messages: 8 Registered: May 2009
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Cool. Actually tried using the a ref= syntax but for some reason it didn't take when I previewed the post. Who knows, probably operator error. Oh hey Wayne, how do I update my email address and user settings on ART? I looked around but the link didn't jump out at me (again probably more operator error). Tx
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Re: Tubey Amps? [message #8499 is a reply to message #8491] |
Sat, 02 October 2004 14:13 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to next message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
Russellc
Messages: 397 Registered: May 2009
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It may be my imagination, but my tube amps sound more "tubey" ( at least on my 4 0hm speakers) when hooked up to the 8 ohm taps. However, I also tend to use my 8 ohm on the 8 ohm taps! go figure. I am now going to switch my A7s to the 16 ohm taps for a try. I also have been meaning to dig up an old issue of Positive Feedback that had an article called "tap dancing". As I recall you needed a bi-wire setup, but it utilized all the taps, 4,8,and16 ohm at the same time. It showed more than one configuration, one with a more neutral sound, and others that emphasized the frequency extremes a little more. The authours argument was that speakers do not present a steady resistance, but one that varies with frequency, so hooking up to just one tap was a compromise at best, the other outputs being wasted. Plus, you could taylor sound just a little. If any are interested in this lunacy, I will try to locate the old issue? I have also wondered as to the effect of which tap on the output the feedback is connected to. My welbourne mod of the dyna st 70 moved this connection from the 16 ohm tap to the 8 ohm tap. More things to drive yourself nuts with, Russellc Russellc
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Re: Try these.... [message #8501 is a reply to message #8498] |
Sun, 03 October 2004 02:55 ![Go to previous message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/up.png) ![Go to next message Go to previous message](/forum/theme/AudioRoundTable/images/down.png) |
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Wayne Parham
Messages: 18756 Registered: January 2001
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Hi Scott, It's real easy to change your E-Mail address. Just type in the new one next time you post. If you have cookies enabled in your browser, it will remember your E-Mail address (and password, if you're registered) and use it for all subsequent posts. If you don't have cookies enabled, you'll just have to type in your E-Mail address and/or password each time you write a message. ART stores username, password and E-Mail address in a cookie, and uses it to fill in the user fields for convenience sake. Wayne
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