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4Pi crossover with 2226H and D220Ti+QSC PL-000446GP? [message #80880] Thu, 04 December 2014 17:56 Go to next message
dubwoofer is currently offline  dubwoofer
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Esquire
Hello,

I hope this is the right subforum...I'm planning a center channel speaker build to go in between some Altec A7's, using a 2226H and a D220Ti/QSC waveguide and was wondering if the 4Pi crossover would be suitable in this application. The current plan is to use a 3 cu ft enclosure with a 2"Hx17"Wx13"D slot vent for an Fb of about 42Hz.
Re: 4Pi crossover with 2226H and D220Ti+QSC PL-000446GP? [message #80881 is a reply to message #80880] Fri, 05 December 2014 14:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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The four π crossover is designed to be used with either the JBL 2226 or Omega 15 midwoofer and a compression driver mounted on the H290C waveguide. It may be suitable for use with another waveguide, but I would definitely want to see measurements to know for sure.

Re: 4Pi crossover with 2226H and D220Ti+QSC PL-000446GP? [message #80883 is a reply to message #80880] Sat, 06 December 2014 03:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dubwoofer is currently offline  dubwoofer
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Esquire
Hi Wayne.

Since my post I've gone back and looked at the data for the drivers above... The D220Ti is probably not the best choice (I just had it on hand), and I'll be getting the DE250 to use instead-the consensus is it's a better transducer. I'd still like to use the waveguide I bought though.

I found the following measurements on the DE250/QSC WG combo...

https://sites.google.com/site/drivervault/driver-measurements/horns-and-waveguides/qsc-pl-000446-gp/frequency-response

https://sites.google.com/site/drivervault/driver-measurements/horns-and-waveguides/qsc-pl-000446-gp/impedance

http://techtalk.parts-express.com/showthread.php?215536-Flex-Your-PCD-Mettle&p=1625810#post1625810

If a four π crossover gets me close, my receiver can take care of the rest.

Re: 4Pi crossover with 2226H and D220Ti+QSC PL-000446GP? [message #80885 is a reply to message #80883] Sat, 06 December 2014 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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The QSC waveguide is pretty close to the H290C in its acoustic properties; Even the acoustic center is pretty close. So the crossover is close too. I am taking this inferrence from the measurements made by Skywave Rider a couple years back. But the waveguides are different, so I cannnot guarantee performance. All I can say is mount both the waveguide and the midwoofer on the same baffle and keep the center-to-center spacing as close as possible for best results.

Re: 4Pi crossover with 2226H and D220Ti+QSC PL-000446GP? [message #80910 is a reply to message #80880] Sat, 06 December 2014 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dubwoofer is currently offline  dubwoofer
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Should I make an effort to offset the HF unit so that the drivers are time aligned? Also how do I calculate the amount of polyfill I need?
Re: 4Pi crossover with 2226H and D220Ti+QSC PL-000446GP? [message #80912 is a reply to message #80910] Sat, 06 December 2014 17:07 Go to previous message
Wayne Parham is currently offline  Wayne Parham
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See the π Speakers FAQ for lots of information about theory, designing, testing and building loudspeakers.

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